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The Stop Adani Convoy

Rob Walls' pic of Bob Brown giving the thumbs down to Adani ... well not really, it was to the cable car at that memorable protest in Cascade Gardens which drew more than 5000 last year ... Richard Flanagan did a memorable speech ...

I am 74 and acutely aware that every minute of every day our planet is hotter than when I was a boy, due to the burning of fossil fuels.

Storms, droughts and bushfires are all the worse, as predicted 30 years ago.

Yet the rate of burning of fossil fuels is still growing in 2019, as is the consequent heating.

The planet’s biosphere has already warmed by one degree since my youth, and it is predicted to be two degrees hotter by the time girls and boys now in primary school reach my age.

Take this process into future centuries and, as scientists warned last year, six or seven degrees of heating will end all life on Earth …

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RICHARD FLANAGAN’S MEMORABLE SPEECH HERE

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27 Comments

27 Comments

  1. MjF

    June 14, 2019 at 7:33 pm

    Well, well, well … full steam ahead now. Thanks Bobby and Clive, you both did very well.

    Isn’t it marvellous what a difference a little old Federal election makes to 10+ years of state bureaucratic stonewalling and procrastination. Labor knows no limits.

    Whatever happened to the finch headcount survey that was so crucial to approvals as determined by Professor Wintle and his hand-picked band of conservation experts who were given unfettered open licence from Premier Palaczczuk to create roadblocks ?

    Not so important when electoral seats are on the line.

  2. MJF

    May 25, 2019 at 12:31 pm

    Now that reality has bitten, federal Labor holds just 6 out of 30 Queensland seats.

    No wonder we see the State Labor power brokers in a pronounced state of panic and conjuring up a 3 week time frame for Adani’s two remaining management plans to be approved.

    Should we dump the left leaning Trad from the deputy leadership ?

    Should we overthrow Palaszczuk, the leader of the right faction, altogether ?

    There is a whole lot more at play here than just carbon in the ground.

    Palmer, with his Galilee lease, must be fairly wetting his pants over this fallout.

  3. MJF

    May 23, 2019 at 9:47 am

    Breathtaking! Palaszczuk is now fed up with Adani delays and requires the project to be moved forward.

    This epiphany is surely just a coincidence following a federal Labor rout! Nowhere to hide now, Ms Premier .. all Billy’s cover you were banking on .. gone!

    I say Bob, rally the troops and come back to Qld. All may not yet be lost. Or was the air during the ferry trip not to your liking ?

  4. Russell

    May 17, 2019 at 5:56 pm

    Adani should be disallowed for being environmentally destructive on so many fronts, not just the BTF.

    It will add so much carbon to the atmosphere in a time when we should be STOPPING it.

    It will pollute and waste one of the largest and most important fresh water aquifers in Queensland, while the state is also mostly in drought.

    It is owned and run by a billionaire who is known to be corrupt and causing immense environmental damage and hardship elswhere.

    Finally, there are MORE jobs, SUSTAINABLE ones, to be created in the renewable energy industry which will employ Australians, NOT fifo slave labour from India.

  5. MjF

    May 16, 2019 at 2:38 am

    Adani is now required to count every BTF that happens to flit onto its lease and set up its nest. Why don’t the regulators already have such information for a bird that’s listed as endangered or vulnerable under no less than three Federal and State legislations ?

    What’s the rationale for listing if something as basic as population numbers is unknown ? Oh, I know. Circumstantial evidence and possible, but not fully understood threats. Bureaucrat speak.

    • John Hawkins

      May 16, 2019 at 7:33 pm

      There are over 300,000 elephants in Africa, with 30,000 in India and roughly 6,000 in Ceylon.

      They are considered endangered, and it is illegal to trade in ivory objects in Europe.

      The Swift Parrot is virtually extinct in Tasmania, and you and yours as Forest Practices Officers still allow the logging of their habitat on Bruny island to keep the maaaaates happy .. in this, your corrupt Tasmania.

      Adani should be able to buy its way out of trouble if Tasmania and its precedents in this field are anything to go by!

      • MjF

        May 17, 2019 at 2:51 am

        Excellent point, Mr Hawkins. So why is it perfectly legal to trade ivory products domestically in Australia ?

        I understand that particular kind of curio rates highly amongst dealers. There is a certain school of thought that says involvement in this sort of activity only encourages poaching and illegal exports.

        I thought there was a moratorium on harvesting in Bruny SP forage and breeding habitat …

        • Lyndall

          May 17, 2019 at 10:19 am

          Even knowing a species and its habitat or even its high-order threat status doesn’t make any difference when it comes to conflicting land uses and resources to be had.

          On Swift Parrot conservation and management under Tasmania’s RFA:

          Nov 2017 – “Scientists working to save a critically endangered species say they are shocked and frustrated about the logging of a known swift parrot nesting site in southern Tasmania.

          Dr Dejan Stojanovic, a conservation biologist at the Australian National University, said he and his research team had been monitoring the habitat at Tyler’s Hill for a decade.

          The area is a registered logging coupe for Sustainable Timber Tasmania, formerly known as Forestry Tasmania.

          In 2016 the government entity failed to achieve Forestry Stewardship Council (FSC) certification on a number of points, including threatened species management.”

          https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-12/endangered-swift-parrot-nesting-boxes-destroyed-in-logging/9142214

          July 2018 – “Habitat for the critically endangered swift parrot is being “knowingly destroyed” by logging because of government failures to manage the species’ survival, according to research.

          Matthew Webb and Dejan Stojanovic, two of the Eureka prize finalists from the Australian National University’s difficult bird research group, say governments have stalled on management plans that would protect known feeding and nesting habitat in Tasmania. … Webb and Stojanovic’s paper accuses the Tasmanian government of failing to finalise two management plans that would protect swift parrot habitat. One, a habitat planning guide that would ensure enough breeding habitat was available, has been in draft form for a decade.

          … conservation status has increased from vulnerable to critical since the EPBC Act came into force. The parrot is one of 20 target species on the federal government’s 20 Birds by 2020 strategy, which aims to improve the trajectory of some of Australia’s most threatened birds.

          Stojanovic said the swift parrot was among the best studied Australian threatened species and its habitat was well known, but this knowledge had not been matched by appropriate conservation management from policy makers.”

          https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/26/logging-destroying-swift-parrot-habitat-as-government-delays-action

          • MjF

            May 18, 2019 at 9:36 am

            There were no nesting trees felled in the Tylers Hill coupe, Lyndal.

            These are known and recorded. They were excluded from a highly reshaped and downsized coupe for that very reason. The leftist ABC wouldn’t bother to research or report the full story, of course. Foraging habitat was also excluded.

            Foraging and breeding habitat are not the same thing in terms of SP. You’ve been suckered in by a somewhat ill-informed and half-baked story based on emotion, and the perceived traction to be gained from referencing two ANU researchers.

  6. Mike Seabrook

    February 13, 2019 at 6:59 pm

    will the yellow rubber duckies used in the stop the franklin campaign be taken to flooded queensland

    • Russell

      February 15, 2019 at 3:58 pm

      For?

      The extensive floods in Drownsville and surrounds were caused by a dam being let to fill to well over 200% capacity before letting it all go.

      The rest of western Queensland which was flooded is called “the channel country”. Can you hazard to guess why?

      • MJF

        February 15, 2019 at 5:51 pm

        However the Ross River dam is designated as water storage only, not flood mitigation, therefore the operator had no requirement to release water progressively, according to the Labor premier.

        Shine Lawyers are on site of course, with over 3,000 homes damaged.

        • Russell

          February 16, 2019 at 8:42 am

          I hope the complainants sue the pants off the dam owners and operators for their incompetence and arrogance.

          Maybe that will shock them into acting responsibly.

          • MjF

            February 16, 2019 at 10:51 am

            It actually all stems from the Labor government in its cocooning of their precious GBE Sunwater and restricting their operational powers. This is not unusual from a government in bed with every union in the land, and hell bent on unlimited public service growth to the point of sending the state broke.

            No wonder Qld can’t survive without coal-derived income.

          • Russell

            February 18, 2019 at 10:50 am

            No, the Townsville floods resulted from irresponsible inaction, incompetence and mismanagement, with people blaming others saying “no-one told me to do anything.” This typifies the public service mentality, and why it has such a poor reputation and work ethic.

            Whatever happened to common sense? A dam at over 200% is OBVIOUSLY in a dangerous condition, and those downstream are going to wear the brunt of it.

            And you’d be in the CFMEU with your forestry cronies, wouldn’t you MJF?

  7. Helen

    February 13, 2019 at 2:38 pm

    Realists would see that the developed nations of the world are giving up coal as fast as they can. Not only because of climate change, but because renewables are cleaner and cheaper than any new coal projects can possibly be. Australia is addicted to selling coal, and is in the same position as a drug pusher, promoting and profiting from a product that is polluting and represents a danger for all life on the planet. Shouldn’t we be committing to renewables as fast as we can?

    http://the-pen.co/taking-on-both-economic-crisis-and-global-warming/

  8. Realist

    February 12, 2019 at 7:56 am

    Hmmn. India has been sanctioned by the IPCC to continue to use coal for affordable energy for the next thirty years. If Australia can’t sell it to them, India will simply look elsewhere at our expense.

    “Six or seven degrees of heating will end all life on Earth .. ” and by the way, it has been one degree since 1870, and that’s dubious, and projections are showing a further half of a degree by the end of the century. Nothing like a good dose of alarmism early in the morning, eh Bob?

    • Ted Mead

      February 12, 2019 at 9:37 pm

      Where has IPCC stated such a sanction?

      You must have a different interpretation of the word ‘sanctioned’ than what seems applicable?

      Sanction can also mean a threatened penalty.

      India announced in the last year or so that they would not take coal from Australia by 2030 so they are either going to not need it or they will get it elsewhere.

      India is targeting an operational capacity of 100,000 Megawatts of solar power by 2022. That is 5 times the current capacity, and aims at an overall energy capacity of 175,000 MW soon after.

      They are currently building some massive solar plants there. Refer to my Adani article.

      This spike in activity has made solar energy cheaper than coal-based power so there is no incentive for India to continue to import coal.

      http://oldtt.pixelkey.biz/index.php/article/why-we-dont-need-the-adani-lemon-…-

      • MjF

        February 15, 2019 at 6:12 pm

        “India announced in the last year or so that it would not take coal from Australia by 2030.”

        This is a strange statement to make Mr Mead, considering Adani’s Carmichael Mine has a planned export life of 60 years if it gets up. That puts Australian coal into India until 2080 .. give or take, offsets for suitable Black-Throated Finch habitat not withstanding.

        Have you been trawling the Habitat Advocate or perhaps The Guardian again ?

        • Jon Sumby

          February 15, 2019 at 8:05 pm

          Well, MjF, it is complicated. What the claims Adani makes may not be commercial reality. The thing is that India has usually bought cheaper lower grade thermal coal; high moisture content, high fly-ash. Historically, much of India’s imported supply comes from Indonesia. The higher quality and more expensive Australian thermal coal has not been the preferred import of choice for the Indian market. As well, India is heavily investing into solar generation, progressively reducing coal need. It may be that indigenous thermal coal production could well be the major source of future Indian requirements.

          These are some of the questions around Adani. Have the Indian coal fired generators suddenly decided to buy the more expensive Australian coal after decades of burning the cheapest rubbish coal? Will the market sustain as India brings in solar? If coal fired generation relaxes as solar moves up, will there still be an import market or will indigenous supply suffice?

          The 2080 year value you quote is part of the Adani pitch, but there are real, sensible, salient questions about that date and if it is just a scam. I write that as there is a good possibility that Adani is setting up here as a price transfer tax avoidance scheme. They have done it before. Just as Ta Ann reduces it’s Malaysian tax costs by leaning on the loss making Tasmanian operation.

          • MJF

            February 16, 2019 at 11:19 am

            Those are all relevant points JS, and yes, India is heavily investing in solar generation .. and particularly Adani individually. Carmichael coal will be exported to India for Adani’s own power stations, so we are told.

            If they on-sell, so what ? It’s not unreasonable to think they will. And dump a bit off at a passing port on the way ?

            Probably.

            India still has millions of unpowered homes, so as a non-expert I can still reasonably foresee that there’s unlimited potential for new customers to buy power generated by all types. If Adani is setting up here purely as a price transfer tax avoidance scheme, then a lot of money is being spent to achieve that end.

            Perhaps the Adani power generators have finally woken up that buying higher grade Qld thermal coal is more cost effective than burning low quality, high emission Indonesian rubbish. We’ll never know, but they will. I imagine Winono won’t be too happy if this ever comes to pass, and his country starts to miss out.

            What additional acts of generosity will our government come up with to appease the upset Indonesians ?

            One thing is for sure .. if Adani ever gets around to moving Qld coal into India, then a cut-off at 2030 is just fanciful.

    • Russell

      February 14, 2019 at 1:05 pm

      If Australia can’t sell it to them, India will simply look elsewhere at EVERYONE’S expense.

      Solar energy is cheaper than coal-based power – economics 101.

      • MjF

        February 15, 2019 at 6:23 pm

        Garbage, Mr Langfield.

        South Australia has the country’s dearest energy, bar none. It is also the country’s leading state in the development of renewables generation and storage. It oughta be cheaper .. but it ain’t.

        Can you join the dots here mate, while sitting up there in your bark hut and chewing on fern roots ?

    • elk

      February 15, 2019 at 2:34 pm

      Instead of coal, Australia’s future energy exports should be wind turbines, solar panels and wave power components, as well as electric cars.

      • Russell

        February 15, 2019 at 4:06 pm

        In recent years northwest Tasmania lost the Vestas Wind Turbine production facility and all the jobs that went with it, in favour of replacing rainforests with plantations. Now Tasmania is importing them. How moronic and what a loss! Vestas employs nearly 24,000 people.

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