Tasmanian Times

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche


This major pledge by Shorten is the key to our future in Tasmania

His most important words were that Labor would create a national Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC)

This is welcome news indeed, and we must all work to ensure that this pledge is followed through, and is fully legislated.

The Tasmanian legal profession must be barred from playing any part in the proceedings.

My research into The Forestry Tasmania/Ta Ann deal over peeler billets, an arrangement which still costs this state a million dollars a week, has been tabled by Andrew Wilkie in the Federal Parliament.

This research reveals the detail, to the long term detriment of Tasmania, behind the gifting of a public asset to a foreign company.

When this case is behind us, then and only then, will this State progress.

Oh, Happy Days!

*John Hawkins was born and educated in England. He has lived in Tasmania for 15 years. He is the author of “Australian Silver 1800–1900” and “Thomas Cole and Victorian Clockmaking” and “The Hawkins Zoomorphic Collection” as well as “The Al Tajir Collection of Silver and Gold” and nearly 100 articles on the Australian Decorative Arts. He is a Past President and Life Member of The Australian Art & Antique Dealers Association. John has lived in Australia for 52 years and is 77 this year. In two of the world’s longest endurance marathons and in the only teams to ever complete these two events, he drove his four-in-hand team from Melbourne to Sydney in 1985 and from Sydney to Brisbane in 1988.

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  1. Jack

    July 20, 2018 at 2:44 am

    Have you noticed that Bill Shorten’s smile in this TT photo looks remarkably like that of Erich Abetz just below? You can sense that there is not much choice on offer in Australia at present.

    If Bill becomes “Liar in Chief” then the soul of the nation is not going to change much. Different day, different bullshit artist. The show must go on – until the wheels fall off the wagon.

    Thanks for nothing, Mr Shorten. We all know that you are the better creep of the two creeps on offer, but do you have to look so pleased about it? It’s as if being the lesser creep has become the new political black.

  2. TGC

    May 16, 2018 at 8:10 pm

    #23 … “Poor Trev” – whoever he is. I am sure he laughs a lot!

  3. john hayward

    May 15, 2018 at 9:55 pm

    Poor Trev.

    Tas Inc sends him out every day to snipe at the enemy – but they never provide him with any ammo.

    If strikes weren’t taboo for Lib noncoms, that’s what he should do.

    John Hayward

  4. Robin Charles Halton

    May 13, 2018 at 9:22 pm

    Unfortunately for Mr Hawkins, the dream of a ICAC investigative unit within the Federal government is dim indeed as our learned friend Mr Shorten most likely won’t make it to the Federal election in early 2019 as Mr Turnbull’s approval rating as PM has soared because the voters back the Tax cuts resulting from Sco Mo’s brilliant budget moves!

    Ratings: or better PM
    Apr19-22 May 10-13
    Turnbull 38 46

    Shorten 35 32

    On top of the tax cuts, Shortens impression’s of the eligibility process through the High Court hit him hard, as more pollies are falling through the gaps over citizenship issues.

    I heard a whisper that Ann Ally, an Egyptian settled in WA, an elected MP for the seat of Cowan, still has not presented her Australian citizenship papers.

    Wow, Bill is really in trouble assuming all is well with the HC’s findings.

  5. John Hawkins

    May 13, 2018 at 1:42 pm

    Trevor Cowell, aka TGC from Tasmania’s Perth ..

    Respect is not earned by snide one liners, or through the correspondence columns of the Examiner.

    It is hard won by due diligence.

  6. TGC

    May 13, 2018 at 12:20 pm

    #16 “… treat others, and this forum, with due respect.”

    #16 can’t be serious, though I suspect ‘he’ is.

  7. Robin Charles Halton

    May 13, 2018 at 11:13 am

    #18 … Peter you are not up really with the news yet, are you?

    With sharp witted Sue at the podium I would be confident that there will be changes to the way government does business in putting its inward looking self before the people of Tasmania.

    I reckon even Abetz, known for his famous “Minister for propaganda” chastisement speeches, could be facing a blitzkrieg within the Liberal ranks as he loses control of those who fail to follow orders to keep the public out of the way from the inner circle workings of the party machine!

    I look foward to the challenges that Will has to now face if he is to remain as a leader.

  8. Peter Bright

    May 13, 2018 at 1:35 am

    Robin, Sue is a Liberal.

    There can be no such person as “an independent minded Liberal.”

  9. Robin Charles Halton

    May 13, 2018 at 12:54 am

    Just to remind John and others that Tasmania does not need an Independent umpire to investigate itself.

    Self evaluation by all parties will be mandatory as the Speaker Sue Hickey holds the power of reply to cast doubt on those who dare cross the party line citing deception against the people of Tasmania.

    The power of being judge, jury and executioner is the new role of our newly elected independent minded Liberal with a firm a grip on those greedy time wasting hangers-on of government who influence false business approvals for handouts to be available in exchange for votes.

  10. mike seabrook

    May 13, 2018 at 12:30 am

    what about those precious hydro electricity customers buying est 60% of tassies hydro output at est. 4c per kwh delivered.

    ask why the 27c roof top solar price is vanishing?

  11. Wining Pom

    May 13, 2018 at 12:08 am

    I see the Liberal party message, or bleat, is being indented on it’s followers.

    To any question any Liberal is asked .. the answer is how bad Shorten is.

    Is that the best thing the Government has going for it? It’s getting like [i]Canberra’s Got Talent.[/i]

  12. TGC

    May 12, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    #11 … It’s a Forum – who’s seeking it?

  13. MjF

    May 12, 2018 at 3:56 pm

    RCH, #1 … The wood today is classified at the bush landing exactly the same as in your day.

    Agreed specifications are used as reference points exactly as they were 50 years ago.

    Each NF saw-log is measured and bar code tagged, the individual log measurements are recorded and then sold as cubic metre volume.

    TAT logs are cut random length with a maximum large end diameter and sold by weight via a site weighbridge – two entirely different processes that need different information entered along the supply chain that simply won’t work if a load goes into the wrong yard.

    Perhaps call the TAT HQ in Hobart town and request a site tour of their facility.

    Write to the Minister for Infrastructure if you like, but I think you might be barking up the wrong tree here. Maybe try the Minister for Resources as the more appropriate avenue.

  14. pat synge

    May 12, 2018 at 2:47 pm

    #8 Trevor … You really shouldn’t quote out of context like that.

    It’s dishonest. You lose any credibility you might have had.

  15. TGC

    May 12, 2018 at 2:25 pm

    #9 … “The next Labor leader will be a (real) woman. Then we might get some real justice.”

    Do “real” women do that?

  16. Peter Bright

    May 13, 2018 at 12:32 am

    At #13, Trevor deflects Pat’s pointed accusation of dishonesty, and in effect suggests that this forum is a place for fun and games for those like himself who want play around with the privilege of free access.

    Nup. You’re wrong there, Trevor.

    That privilege, and it’s a mighty one, is paid for by others. It’s others who do all the work to provide that access, as well as endowing this state, and everywhere else, with a superb source of information for the serious-minded.

    Trevor, you’d do better to treat others, and this forum, with due respect.

  17. Kevin Moylan

    May 12, 2018 at 12:28 pm

    Former Senator Nick Xenophon, tabled in parliament September 2017 calling for bi-partisan support.

    1. Federal Whistleblower Protection Authority (a one-stop-shop)

    2. National Crime and Corruption Commission

    1999. The Tasmanian Ombudsman and Health Complaints Commissioner, Jan O’Grady informs “We can’t find your file.”

    Five years of evidence and a $20 million mental health class action concerning 90 plaintiff patients was at stake. Mind numbing and head banging maladministration. Only in TasMANIA!

    I will never return to that scurrilous secret island to testify and give evidence until or unless I can be granted full Federal protections.

    Never investigated and unresolved criminal matters include: Stalking. Physical and psychological assaults, threats to kill and attempted murder using a motor vehicle. TAS CS0034. Currently registered.

    My sanctioned State Sponsored messenger of evil intent, warns me. “If you don’t back off now you’ll disappear, six-foot under.”

    Welcome to TasMANIA! We are desperate for good nurses and doctors – way down here.

    Shorten borrowed a national ICAC. What is his Federal Whistleblower policy?

    He only got into politics feeding off a mine disaster, and his mother-in-law was Governor General. The next Labor leader will be a (real) woman. Then we might get some real justice.

  18. TGC

    May 11, 2018 at 7:43 pm

    #3 “… Tasmania urgently needs to be investigated under a Royal Commission.”
    Absolutely – we really do need a Royal Commission – doesn’t matter what into – just so long as we get one.

  19. john hayward

    May 11, 2018 at 4:17 pm

    Before rejoicing at a federal ICAC, you would want to ensure that the legislation provided a clear shunt to circumvent the Tasmanian Integrity Commission.

    It does not appear that Tasmanian officialdom understands or respects the Judicial Review Act which prescribes procedural fairness, such as providing cogent reasons for decisions, and proscribes local customs such as ignoring conflicts of interest.

    It all seems too big an evolutionary step for our pollies.

    John Hayward

  20. Ted Mead

    May 11, 2018 at 3:04 pm

    # 1 … One problem with the TFA machinations was that the ENGO representatives believed that Ta Ann was here to stay!

    Whether they argued that there was a misuse of future sawlog availability through the peeler supply is unknown.

    Either way Ta Ann come out of it looking rosy and prosperous for the Taib connection, and also $26 million better of for a reduction in their quote that they had no possible use for anyway.

    You know and I know who brokered that deal.

    All the more reason why there is a desperate need for a national ICAC to stop the blatant shenanigans that goes on down in Tasmania.

  21. Ted Mead

    May 11, 2018 at 2:21 pm

    All good in theory –

    My fear is that it will end up like the ICAC in NSW, and not much eventuated from that!

    Unless such a corruption investigation body has a sound set of teeth, with no encumbrances, then it’s a tokenistic effort to stamp out high end political crime.

    If it does eventuate then Tasmanian politicians will become totally inactive – because they know no other way to run the state!

  22. Russell

    May 11, 2018 at 1:42 pm

    No that is worth voting for if it is true. Let’s see how public he makes it. I haven’t heard anything about it except in tis article. It MUST have unlimited investigative and prosecution powers over States as well as the Federal Government to be effective and bring Australia back to a decent caring democracy.

  23. Andrew Ricketts

    May 11, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    Hawkins claims: “When this case is behind us, then and only then, will this State progress.” Maybe !

    Tasmania urgently needs an ICAC. Agreed, as does the Federal jurisdiction. Shorten was only promising a Federal one, not a Tasmanian one as well.

    Forestry in Tasmania urgently needs to be investigated under a Royal Commission.

    Shorten did offer a clear distinction compared to the Liberals in social terms, but only some vague targets over climate change mitigation.

    Fancy Morrison still planning to give money to the Banks. Disgusting!

    Currently Josh is intending to squander money on the farmers rather than taking firm action to save the now 30% dead Great Barrier Reef, and that is after the Liberals argued against listing the Reef as Threatened WH. What a farce and a sham!

    I thought it was Shorten’s best speech effort to date. He’s not a natural orator like Turnbull perhaps, but I think he is far more genuine.

  24. TGC

    May 11, 2018 at 12:39 pm

    Everyone should duck for cover when Bill Shorten is let loose …

  25. Robin Charles Halton

    May 11, 2018 at 11:58 am

    Shorten is nothing more than a bag of wind, and anyone voting for Labor on his behalf at a Federal election would have to be off their rocker!

    Although we have seen the likes of Abbott as a PM, and Turnbull has taken ages to get a RC into banks and financial institutions under way, it has happened and the public can view the details with the ongoing consequences which will sharpen up ICAC’s responsibilities, and I am sure shareholders expect a far better deal for all involved to ensure fair and reasonable regulation of the industry.

    In my opinion Shorten is a loser for Labor.

    Re Ta Ann in Tasmania … it was in hindsight a rather desperate deal, initially their resource was meant to be HWP nitens and ended up as most of prime eucalypt regrowth, much of which should have awaited its forest production cycle to be grown onto maturity as an important saw-log resource!

    I trust that I would like to know more about the operational aspects of Ta Ann and the NSP sawmill at Southwood, in particular how logs are segregated and classified before actual processing, as they end up at the same site!!!

    I have tried on two occasions in the past when Mr Rolley was CEO to visit the site and I have been refused. I will try again, and as a trusted former employee of FC/FT if I continue to be denied I would like to know why, as it is likely I would be writing to the Minister for Infrastructure for an explanation!

    State Labor, forest industry reps and the Wilderness Society supported that peeler processing was an acceptable use of PUBLIC forests resource as a part of the Peace process!

    Former Premier Lara Gidding displayed her support for the TFA legislation 2013, and proudly articulated the legislation in such a way that many of the public accept it as the done thing to bring Peace to the forest debate.

    Much doubt still exists over this deal and it is rather difficult to see how sustainable forest resource access will fare, as time moves on, with a much reduced area of Production forest now available.

    During my remaining life time as a former Tech forester familiar with Southern wet forest eucalypt regrowth back in the 60’s-80’s then classified as sawlog for LOCAL regrowth millers and pulpwood for APM at Port Huon, it would be interesting to observe how “intermediatry” eucalypt regrowth is classified today to meet the resource requirements of Ta Ann and NSP who both operate from the same site at Southwood!

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