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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

Economy

The meaning of BREXIT …

*Cartoon: Martyn Turner, used with permission: https://www.facebook.com/martynturnercartoons/ . http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/martyn-turner

First published April 4

Read this, brilliant, editorial in The Observer …

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14 Comments

14 Comments

  1. TGC

    April 20, 2017 at 12:13 am

    #13 On this forum-‘elevated’

  2. Robert LePage

    April 18, 2017 at 1:28 pm

    12# reduced to an ad hominem are you?

  3. TGC

    April 18, 2017 at 12:41 am

    #11 Cantankerous sod!

  4. Robert LePage

    April 17, 2017 at 8:12 pm

    10# the majority rules idea is a bit of a delusion. How many Corporation are there that are running the country via the so called government ?
    Nowhere near as many as voters .
    Still it is the best Democracy that money can buy.

  5. TGC

    April 11, 2017 at 12:45 pm

    A significant number of political decisions -great or tedious- are opposed by a substantial number of citizens- in any country, in an system, at any time.
    Which is why the ‘majority rules’ idea has some merit.

  6. Richard Kopf

    April 11, 2017 at 11:45 am

    Brexit will prove a disaster for the economy of the UK or what’s left of it afterwards. Almost half of the population voted stay. Margaret Thatcher the second, had a chance to make a sensible decision and overturn Brexit, but supported the,”will of the people”. Now live with it.

  7. pat synge

    April 9, 2017 at 11:49 am

    #6 Citizen Kane: Only about 17.4 million voted “leave” and 16.1m voted “stay”.
    Get your facts right.

  8. Wining Pom

    April 5, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    #6, well, I would like to see your research, apart from the Welsh steelworker that is.

    ‘In the whole Brexit debate I am yet to see one piece of detailed analysis outlining the projected impacts on the UK’s economy.’

    So how are you so sure of your ‘ecological principles?’

  9. Citizen Kane

    April 5, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    #5 It must be about racism because the Royal ‘I’ have ‘first hand experience of discussions leading up to the vote’. What – of the whole nation? This is typical of the self inflated hyperbole that tweety birds pass off as intellectual debate. Perhaps you might like to analyse the cultural background of all who voted to leave. Are you honestly saying it was entirely Anglos making up that 30 odd million. And even if it were true (which it is not), apparently for the liberal wet infatuated with identity politics it’s ok to rant and rave about the cultural rights of say Aboriginal Australians but apparently not if your a ancient Briton. More hypcriscy

  10. Wining Pom

    April 5, 2017 at 12:45 pm

    #4 ‘Brexit is not about racism’ Oh yes it is. I have first hand knowledge of the discussions leading up to the vote.

    And the poor Welsh steelworker? The EU stuffed it up for him? Did the EU stuff up our steelworkers, the Pittsburgh steelworkers?

    But the TPP. The only thing I thank Trump for. But again, what is less traumatic, the TPP or Trump? Maybe when Miami goes even more under water he’ll wake up. Ha, just a joke. He never will.

  11. Citizen Kane

    April 5, 2017 at 2:00 am

    It is a constant source of amusement to me that those on the political divide most ‘outraged’ by brexit, broadly belong to the same political cohort that picketed every G8 and G20 summit etc going around no more than 10 or so years ago, warning of the perils and great evil of globalisation.

    The article referenced here is a classic example of everything wrong with contemporary journalism. Big on unsubstantiated emotive nonsense (‘Brexitiers will now turn to the enemy within..’) and scant on facts, details and evidence. In the whole Brexit debate I am yet to see one piece of detailed analysis outlining the projected impacts on the UK’s economy.The ABC has run hard against brexit yet it has never once produced any substantive journalism that underpins its position. It has just been agenda based journalism delivered from a preconceived position.

    Put yourself for a moment in the shoes of a Welsh steelworker struggling to make ends meet. She /He competes with 70 million others on an island that would fit into NSW 8 times over. Why is it a good idea that the UK just remain an open door to those who having made asylum in France and still claim refugee status because they would prefer the UK. Its not about where the people come from – that is an irrelevance- its the fact that the place is already stretched to breaking point and many are living that reality. How many is too many?

    To those among us who are truly guided by ecological principles this is self evident – to the self righteous tweety birds who claim environmental sympathies – its just easier to brush it under the carpet – lest the harsh ecological realities impinge on someones ‘human right’ to declare stratford-upon-avon more desirable than calais, and therefore their ‘right’ to move there and any imposition upon that move is deemed a crime against humanity – what a nonsense!

    Of course the same misguided debate dominates the Australian media landscape, while for instance the plight of the Murray-Darling River system (the lifeblood of the nations food bowl) and the city of Adelaide is subjugated to the obscure pages to make way for those who glue there hands to parliament screeching that anyone who so desires should be ushered into the country. Even after a good year of rainfall throughout 2016, there is no additional water for environmental flows if we are to feed the massively expanding megacities we have created soaking up untold resources – places that already cost a cool million for the privilege of an 1.5hr commute to work! Is it just me or there a collective inability for people to join the dots? The ability for any nation to accommodate a massive population without massive environmental and social impacts is not limitless.

    Enough of the identity politics and victimhood clap-trap that fills our public debate and media. Time to face some home truths. Brexit is not about racism, its about population, sustainablity and control. And now it would seem the left has gone to war against that reality and abandoned ecological principles, in favour of identity politics, ‘social justice’ sloganeering and intellectually vacuous hypocrisies.

    In the same way that when the Greens rally (rightly) against the TPP its OK but when Trump does its an outrage. Why must we approach politics like we are barracking for a football team? Surely every issue should be argued on its merits

    As the author of the article says ‘ Be careful of what you wish for’ alright- a 250 million Australian population, enshrined in ASEAN legislation anyone? A brexitier might just be the best friend the world has!!!

  12. TGC

    April 4, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    #2 Didn’t use ‘moronic’- did he miss a medication schedule?

  13. john hayward

    April 4, 2017 at 6:51 pm

    Once he has digested the Examiner and Breitbart News, # 1 TGC would have pretty well metabolised the sum of human knowledge.

    John Hayward

  14. TGC

    April 4, 2017 at 12:23 am

    Because it’s in The Observer-of course it’s a “brilliant editorial” There is no need even to read it.

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