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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

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Welcome, February 2014

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  1. David Obendorf

    February 7, 2014 at 11:33 am

    Karl Stevens at 12 the juggnaut that was the hardwood monoculture establishment across Tasmania was what I refer to as the [i]’Sophie’s Choice'[/i] for the minority Greens MPs all those years ago. They had to choose between escalating conflict in native forest logging or accept Management Investment Schemes for plantation establishment.

    The mournful legacy is, as you so clearly state Karl like:[i]’Greens hailing [b]feral cats[/b] as the future of wildlife tourism in Tasmania'[/i].

    [b]Feral cats[/b] for decades – thanks to gatekeepers like [b]David Llewelly[/b]n and his DPIPWE mob of devotees – were a protected species; a creature that they dare not speak its name.

    The faking and crass pseudo-science that goes on in Tasmania has more than a few times hood-winked our Tasmanian Greens MPs into being complicit in fantasy propositions. Maybe they enjoy being outfoxed by fantasists playing with their minds? Who knows!

    Having one or two Green MPs with very close links to Labor – and how Labor deals in the power-business – was sufficient to allow the pendulum of Tasmanian politics to swing back to the right.

    If there is [b]money[/b] to be made out of feral cats, I can guarantee, the Greens environment spokesperson will be on to it. It was ever thus.

  2. Just Frank again

    February 6, 2014 at 11:59 pm

    David #11 and Karl #12-
    Always remember the words:
    “It is a once in a lifetime opportunity”…
    That summed it up for me, as if one can protect something that belongs to this and future generations by taking it over through a political poker game plan.
    Foolish dreams I call that.
    But Tasmania is well known for the gambling and batting nature by many.
    The promoters and (let’s call them) the ‘true believers’ thought and hoped that it may turn out easier and faster to gamble on the lucrative, financially well greased “TFA Deal” than do the harder, slower process of bringing the broader community and all industries together to explore real and lasting solutions.
    Nick & Cassy just represented the top of the ‘true believers’, they just gambled in another way…-
    Catch us if you can lives on here on Pretender Island.

  3. Karl Stevens

    February 6, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    David Obendorf 11. I agree with your narrative on the TFA. Dragging the talks out for nearly a whole state government term with an ’11th hour’ rush to secure the World Hertage extension by then environment minister Burke after so much had been lavished on the logging companies was not a good look.
    Something Green voters need to consider is that (in my view) Ta Ann is using all of Tasmania’s future sawlogs decades before the trees have matured. Also, the saw-milling of plantation trees is a pipe dream that only lives in a few imaginations.
    The very worrying thing about the introduced e.nitens is thay have genetically polluted Tasmania’s native forests since they were introduced here from the mainland. Scientific papers have been written on this subject. It’s unbelievable to me that e.nitens are not only grown by some Greens MP’s but held-up as the future of the Tasmanian saw log industry. Biologically, isn’t this is the same as the Greens hailing feral cats as the future of wildlife tourism in Tasmania?

  4. David Obendorf

    February 6, 2014 at 11:27 am

    I can endorse Claire’s comment at #10.

    The logging industry’s successful tie-up of the forestry roundtable negotiations for over three years was the [i]Big Picture[/i] game Garry that went seriousky awry. The loggers’ negotiators did it and they’re now on a roll again. They got the big money from Government. They delayed the deal and so giving time for the Gunns Ltd assets fire sale to occur and they comprehensively hood-winked and coerced the ENGO negotiators into playing along with them with their delaying tactics.

    How could the ENGO-trio [i]trust[/i] Forestry Tasmania and FIAT representatives after such ‘form’ over decades?

    Dr Pullinger (ET Inc) and Mr Oosting (TWS) and a few other individuals in ACF have been complicit in this bizarre game. [Mr Vica Bayley inherited that dog’s breakfast.] The negotiations went pear-shaped Garry and those individuals need to address their responsibility for the position they took to those talks on behalf of Tasmanians they claimed to represent.

  5. Claire Gilmour

    February 6, 2014 at 1:16 am

    I notice the log truck are going hell for leather down this far n/w end at the moment, so someone is on the money. lots of split big trees going to the chipper. Someone’s obviously making the money out of the cleafelling of native forests. One of the special boys club perhaps? Under what scheme are they endorsed at the moment? Keep it in the family payout, under a different name perhaps?

  6. Garry Stannus

    February 5, 2014 at 11:37 pm

    Sorry Karl, I don’t know the answers to your questions. I’d tell you if I did. Your third question contains an assertion which is quite similar to Tim’s, in that other thread. (“the Ferguson review into hardwood plantations had been allegedly set-up to assist KordaMentha sell the pulp mill permit”)

    So, what was wrong with Kim’s criticism of the purchase of wood-chip loader? You never actually answered.

    When I was on the VTHC, some of my comrades would always use the Secretary’s Report (Ken Stone) to enable us to have our say on our pet gripe … ‘I rise to oppose the Secretary’s report on the grounds that it failed to mention…’.

  7. Karl Stevens

    February 5, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    Garry Stannus 7 . Hi Garry. I sent 3 questions to the five Greens MPs in Tasmania on January 25. So far not one answer.

    1.What was the Solicitor Generals advice regarding the payment of Gunns debts to Forestry Tasmania in 2011?

    2. Did Nick & Cassy know KordaMentha had written to Lara Giddings in September 2013?

    3. Did Nick & Cassy know the Ferguson review into hardwood plantations had been allegedly set-up to assist KordaMentha sell the pulp mill permit?

    Any assistance in answering these 3 questions would be appreciated.

  8. Garry Stannus

    February 4, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    “Mike Bolan 4. Mike, hadn’t you noticed everything is different here than anywhere else? The system of government is also ‘uniquely Tasmanian’. For example Kim Booth just criticised the purchase of a wood chip loader by the government but failed to mention the government had just recalled parliament to rush thru legislation ordered by the seller of the wood chip loader.”

    Your comment is whacky, Karl. You didn’t mention the wood chip loader till Kim brought it up, but then you criticised him for not saying more. Why didn’t you say it? You don’t mention this in your own (anonymous) blog Karl. Why not? That’s whacky, Karl.

  9. Poppy Lopatniuk

    February 3, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    #2 The tasmanian government has long been stained with evil and darkness through corruption and coverups. Instead of acknowledging their mistakes and dealing in a transparent manner through correct remediation and a show of compassion to those unfortunate enough to be caught up in these disasters seems government policy is just to look the other way.

  10. Karl Stevens

    February 3, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    Mike Bolan 4. Mike, hadn’t you noticed everything is different here than anywhere else? The system of government is also ‘uniquely Tasmanian’. For example Kim Booth just criticised the purchase of a wood chip loader by the government but failed to mention the government had just recalled parliament to rush thru legislation ordered by the seller of the wood chip loader.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-03/nrn-tas-woodchip-loader/5233774

  11. Mike Bolan

    February 3, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    Not sure how a picture of clouds is ‘uniquely Tasmanian’?

  12. John Wade

    February 3, 2014 at 9:49 am

    “mackerel sky” = time to go fishing.

  13. TGC

    February 3, 2014 at 12:23 am

    #1 Where in the world is this “government that is evil and dark”?

  14. Karl Stevens

    February 2, 2014 at 11:15 pm

    I think TT is in good hands. Sure the commentators get fired-up, go over the top and need occasional restraining but why wouldn’t they? Their power has been taken away by a government that is evil and dark. There is even ‘self-censorship’ among the TT commentators believe it or not? TT is only a road and not the destination. A little island where your friends enemies are my friends becomes like a pressure cooker but right now all the pressure is on the ‘wrongdoers’. Lets stand back and watch them blow fuses while the 2 wings of the same party go into an election with itself?

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