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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

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Children Don’t Belong in Jail. #kidsoffnauru

“Children Don’t Belong in Jail” is a new protest song released today by New Zealand musicians Luke Buda and Don McGlashan in response to the plight of the refugee children still detained on the island of Nauru. Don and Luke felt they couldn’t stay silent on this issue and have teamed up to write a song, in association with trans-Tasman grassroots advocacy group Mums 4 Refugees, to highlight the issues these children continue to face. As Universal Children’s Day approaches on 20 November, Don and Luke are joining the call to get all these children and their families off Nauru and provide them proper medical care and a safe future with their song “Children Don’t Belong in Jail”.

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  1. spikey

    November 18, 2018 at 7:34 pm

    in my personal opinion
    attention seeking, revolting discussion on humane matters
    as usual
    I applaud those standing up to such inhumane treatment
    is top40 kiddy angst, the new hafta tribe?
    care for an actual discussion on these matters chris?
    troll, on hero, I await, with baited breath
    your relevance

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    • spikey

      November 18, 2018 at 8:28 pm

      point taken
      one question
      In terms of all but chris’s brief comments
      what planet of comprehension
      are the moderators from?

      if I talk enough incomprehensible deliberate gobbledegook, mixed with some one liners, are we all sweet?

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  2. Christopher Eastman-Nagle

    November 18, 2018 at 3:07 pm

    As that brilliant exponent of black comedy, Tom Lehrer, once famously quipped in his song about the Spanish Civil War .. ‘They won all the battles, but we had all the good songs’.

    The ‘good songs’ obscured the fact that democratic politics were not viable in Spain, and that the only real contenders were equally unattractive German-sponsored fascists or Soviet comintern-sponsored communists. They also obscured the probability that a fascist victory offered the only real hope of staying out of WW2. Hitler would not have tolerated a communist regime on his Iberian flank, and at some point, if that had happened, there would have been a full scale German invasion followed by a later Allied counter-invasion.

    The casualties would have been a hideous modern re-run of the terrible early nineteenth century Peninsular War that was so brutally depicted by Francisco Goya.

    Thanks a million General Franco .. you know, the millions of Spaniards who wouldn’t be alive today without his far sighted wisdom and courage despite all the heartrending songs about what an awful bastard he was.

    Political songs represent ideological aspirations and political fantasies that confirm the hopes and prejudices of their composers and hangers-on, and that is about it. This one is no different.

    Nauru isn’t a jail. Nauruans live there. The camps there have been open for three years now. We spend around $400,000 a year on each ‘inmate’ to make sure life isn’t too tough on them.

    German concentration camps were extremely ‘cost effective’ and made a tidy profit out of their inmates by starving/working/beating to death those fit enough not to be gassed on entry .. and then recycling their hair and personal effects including the gold in their teeth.

    ‘Inmates’ have all been offered and declined third world gigs for resettlement, like Cambodia and New Guinea. Asylum seekers are only entitled to asylum. They are not entitled to a destination of choice. Refugee camps mainly exist to provide temporary refuge until it is safe to go home.

    It took 10 years to finally clear the Indo-China refugee backlog. It took 12 years to clear the post-war European one. Nauru ‘inmates’ have only been in the camps for a maximum of 5 years. In a lot of UNHCR camps, people have been rotting away for twenty to thirty years in camps infinitely less salubrious than Nauru, and they would be lucky to have a few hundred dollars a year spent on them annually.

    The Naruans have children who spend their entire lives on Nauru, and they do not get the same level of facilities that the camp ‘inmates’ do. They somehow survive the tropical climate. Most of them cannot afford the air conditioners that these days come standard as camp ‘inmate’ perks.

    And yes, it is tough on parents who have gambled everything to get past our borders .. and failed. It is even tougher when they do not attempt to maintain the morale of their children, particularly if self-harm behaviours become a political tool to whip the Australian mainland ‘Indulgentsia’ into their accustomed ideological lather.

    There’s nothing like a bit of top forty Kiddyangst to get you going in the morning …

    • Russell

      November 19, 2018 at 7:17 am

      “Nauru isn’t a jail. Nauruans live there.”

      It is for those refugees who were plonked there indefinitely, in limbo, by our Government.

      “The camps there have been open for three years now.”

      So why are the Nazi “camps” so vilified, and these not? Does three years being open make them good somehow?

      “We spend around $400,000 a year on each ‘inmate’ to make sure life isn’t too tough on them.”

      No, we spend that money on minders, government lackies and bribes to the Nauruan Government to have the camp situated there. Obviously very little is actually spent on the poor bloody refugees themselves.

      “‘Inmates’ have all been offered and declined third world gigs for resettlement, like Cambodia and New Guinea”.

      Oh great! Why not offer them the opportunity to live with the sharks? Or maybe the poor bastards would just prefer the USA alliance to get the hell out of their countries so they could go home? In the meantime, we owe them asylum here in Australia.

      “The Naruans have children who spend their entire lives on Nauru, and they do not get the same level of facilities that the camp ‘inmates’ do.”

      The difference is that the Nauruans have all their families with them, they speak the language, they live the culture, they have a sense of belonging and they are happy to be there by choice. They BELONG there because it is THEIR country.

      You really are one sick bigot, Nagle.

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