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Labor and the Greens Under Pressure Over Birth Certificate Changes

Women Speak Tasmania is hearing from many women across Tasmania who are outraged at Labor and the Greens attempt to fast track changes to birth certificates at the behest of Transforming Tasmania.

Never before has the community witnessed such unashamed fast tracking of legislation, with trans rights activists insisting the matter was broadly discussed, with no concerns raised, following a pseudo-consultation conducted by the former Anti-discrimination Commissioner, Robin Banks, in early 2106.

Anyone searching online for a report on this consultation, or any submissions received, will be searching in vain. There’s an Options Paper to guide the consultation, but nothing more.

One local group, the Women’s Liberation Front Tasmania (WoLF), sent a submission in response to the Options Paper, and a representative of the group met personally with Ms Banks.

This meeting led to a formal complaint to the Attorney-General alleging bullying and inappropriate conduct on the part of Ms Banks.

It is time Labor and Greens listened to the public outcry over their proposals.

They should pass the legislation needed to bring Tasmanian law into line with the Commonwealth Marriage Act without delay.

Labor and the Greens also need to be upfront about the detail of their proposed changes to the law regulating birth certificates in our state.

They should support the Government’s referral of the matter to the Tasmanian Law Reform Institute for proper community consultation. In particular, they need to pay attention to the potential impact of the changes on the rights of women and girls.

Fair Play for Women, here

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14 Comments

14 Comments

  1. John Wiseman

    October 29, 2018 at 4:41 pm

    Females, I agree with your comments about this crazy push by the Transgender group, and the trend grabbing Greens and Labor. But I will say you have equaled men when you start doing the sort of work men do.

    Do you remember the TV show “Worlds Worst Jobs”? There was a man in a diving suit clearing out the sewers of Mexico City. Well girls, who is putting on the rubber suit next?

    • Claire Gilmour

      October 29, 2018 at 7:20 pm

      John Wiseman says “… you have equaled men when you start doing the sort of work men do.”

      Ha, ha, ha. I’ve professionally painted on my knees in the bowels of the abattoirs, and with maggots dripping on me. No rubber suit needed … just do!

      I am a tradeswoman …

      I have dived with, and worked alongside, sharks.

      I can use an axe better than many a man.

      I can live alone in the jungle without fear … unlike many a man!

      And then at the end of the day I can put a skirt on, do my hair nicely and say … what do you do for a job?

      So which men are you talking about? The real ones, or the ones who are scared of losing their masculinity … because being equal does not fit in with their desire for control?

    • Lola Moth

      October 30, 2018 at 5:33 am

      Mr Wiseman, the whole point of equality is that there are no jobs exclusively for men or women. Men can be nurses and midwives which used to be women only jobs. Equality gave men the opportunity to learn these skills and to gain employment in these areas. I am sure Mexico City would have interviewed many applicants, both male and female, for the job of sewer cleaner. They employed the person they felt had the best qualifications and experience for the job.

      The fact that you assume no woman applied for the position means we have a long way to go before equality becomes reality.

    • Russell

      October 30, 2018 at 6:47 am

      Will you be doing any of these jobs John, or does that make you a girl if you don’t? Be reasonable with your expectations and generalisations.

  2. Isla MacGregor

    October 28, 2018 at 6:27 pm

    I would be interested to hear Rodney’s and Martine’s response to Janet Albrechsten in The Australian on 26 October:

    “What LGBTI advocate Rodney Croome fails to explain is how it is discriminatory to offer parents a choice to record the sex of their newborn on a birth certificate.

    Banning gender on a birth certificate does not encourage tolerance and inclusion, but stripping people of their gender at birth cements a social experiment aimed at encouraging gender fluidity.

    Tasmanian Greens leader Cassy O’Connor said the current laws require that transgender people undergo invasive reproductive surgery if they want to change their birth certificate to reflect their identity.If that is the case, have a debate about that rather than using a legal sledgehammer to remove gender from all birth certificates.

    Transgender activist Martine Delaney says removing gender from birth certificates won’t harm anyone.
    How can she know that? If a man is able to pass himself off as woman using a genderless birth certificate to gain entry to women’s spaces, or ends up in a women’s prison, how can Delaney know there are no risks to women’s safety?”

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/from-a-safe-distance-well-watch-tasmanias-gender-folly-fail/news-story/4bba5ceb6305657f7bb542f590a7f51f

  3. Isla MacGregor

    October 28, 2018 at 6:23 pm

    For TTers interested to read more on the international roundup on impacts on girls and women from transactivism see:

    https://www.facebook.com/womenspeaktas/

  4. Tony Stone

    October 28, 2018 at 2:45 pm

    The feminist PC crew have brought our society to this ridiculous situation. What else can you expect when you allow minority groups to dictate to society? I’m not only referring to the warped right wing feminists, but all those who have pushed for a separation of the sexes and demanding that men be blamed for everything when nothing could be further from the truth because women are as much to blame as men. It’s just that everyone is in denial and looking to pass blame.

    It’s really hilarious and interesting being an observer of this monumental worldwide sociological collapse, and just another nail in the coffin of ideological human society.

    Now we have really bizarre ideologies desperate to rule and destroy the future for everyone. I have to laugh at the PC feminists here complaining when it’s they who have been at the forefront of the decline in human relationships, and in their blind fervency, they have placed power in the hands of the worst kind of useless humans.

    • Russell

      October 29, 2018 at 7:11 am

      It is NOT the feminists pushing this rubbish, Tony.

      And why shouldn’t females be equal to males in all respects?

      Don’t forget Tony, women produced every single human on this planet, so you should be thanking them that you have a life, and a voice to speak with.

      Bronwyn, Isla and others haven’t been blaming men at all .. if you bothered to read their comments. Cut your patriarchal nonsense.

  5. Lola Moth

    October 28, 2018 at 11:18 am

    My best friend in kindergarten swore she was a pony trapped in the body of a little girl. Perhaps she will be able to get her equine paperwork sorted soon.

  6. Hasquin Boyd

    October 28, 2018 at 9:28 am

    People didn’t vote for the Greens to back Cassy’s pet campaign for her child’s identity. It makes a complete mockery of her involvement in domestic violence and gender equity for women.

  7. Russell

    October 28, 2018 at 7:04 am

    It seems the pseudo-transgenders have done a “Wentworth” by trying to white-ant the natural order of world.

    Be very careful Cassy and Rebecca, or you’ll lose every vote you thought you had gained.

    How about concentrating on more important issues like doing something immediately about the plight of the refugees and Climate Change?

  8. Claire Gilmour

    October 27, 2018 at 7:21 pm

    How dare anyone try and take away my (or anyone’s future) biological right to be identified as a female/girl/woman.

    If I/any female am not allowed to be identified at birth as such, when will such be allowed to?

    Will I (any female) have to go through some sort of government assessment when I get to a certain age to identify as such?

    What would/will the parameters be?

    What if, as a child, I am a really feminine tomboy, what psycho class will they put me in to confuse me more?

    I’m flabbergasted that in an age when female rights are still just becoming a reality, the Greens want to take that away – from birth!

    Are you insane, so politically desperate … or just completely stupid?

    And Yes, I am angry …

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-27/hannah-gadsby-anne-summers-chelsea-bond-power-of-womens-anger/10432438

    • Isla MacGregor

      October 27, 2018 at 8:26 pm

      Yes Claire, according to Cassy and Rebecca we are now defined as cis women. We will no longer be allowed to call ourselves women. For trans rights activists to push their own agenda they need to redefine girls and women – as Simone de Beauvoir said as … ‘other’. Women, as we were previously described, are now defined as a privileged class as opposed to the less privileged class of trans women. It is now ‘transphobic’, for any woman especially, to say trans women are not women.

      According to the Greens and Labor, feelings are more important than the reality of an oppressed class.

      The transcult is underpinned by a belief system not based in reality or facts, and it would appear that most Tasmanians understand this.

      • Claire Gilmour

        October 27, 2018 at 11:46 pm

        So the trans are getting (or expecting) more rights than we’ve got, making the average biological born (and associating as such) woman a minority … once again !

        Too many free drugs for some I guess ! The oxymoron of a male turning female destroying female rights! What a coup d’etate for the religious political ol’ boys club!

        I always thought OK, the trans are the third wheel in life – that’s all good and OK, but if you want to take first place, taking away others rights … then you aren’t playing equally fair.

        So expect war on the dance floor m’girls!

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