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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

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We citizens need nationalism, flag-toting, political ranting about our goodness and virtue …

First published Feb 5

Back in the good old days, no one cared too much about celebrating Australia Day. It was traditionally consigned to the closest Monday and had little flag waving or silly speeches. It was seen as the last chance for a great long weekend at the beach before the onset of Autumn.

However the conservatives decided that we citizens needed nationalism, flag toting and political ranting about our goodness and political virtue … a bit of goose-stepping lies close to the reactionary heart.

So, subsequently in the 1990s a decision was reached that we must celebrate on the 26th January with lashings of idiocy and right wing patriotism coupled with copious amounts of flags flying around attached to bombed out Holdens … the now no longer national car! This was a double bonus for the Libs beholden to the bosses for party funds as the capitaliat class would only pay five of seven holidays per seven years as as two out of seven are going to be weekends!

But honestly we all know that this day is an attrocious date for a national holiday which quite simply can only be described as invasion day and soberly remembered for the subsequent dismemberment of the Aboriginal people. Awful, also is the politicization of this day, the pale attempt to turn us into flag-waving, uncritical idiots, without criticism of the faults and failings of our white colonial past.

However nothing wrong with a long weekend holiday towards the end of Summer. Perhaps we could call it Inclusive Australia Day. First Australians might like to talk about the 60,000 years of their history on such a day. And perhaps those new Aussies who came by boat could tell us some sobering stories as to why they fled their homelands.

But Inclusive Australia Day should include some fun, satire, games and a few glasses of home-made beer!

Taking the piss out of pollies is always terrific fun and perhaps a John Clarke award for the best political impersonatrions could be great concept. For example how about a John Howard imitation … remember that speech … “we shall decide who comes here” … contestants would raise their voices to a squeak, flap arms with angry chook intensity and perhaps stamp feet in child like fury to a refrain of I feellikechickentonight.

If this is too difficult, as admittedly the Howard voice is wingely unique, perhaps go for the Abbott segument. Remember that “shit happens” moment when a journalist questioned poor old Tone on his dreadful comment relating to the death of an Aussie soldier in Afganistan. Struck dumb was Tony, apoplectic, incapable of uttering a sound beyond a gasp, mouth open, head rocking, appearing close to having a heart attack or was that an impending shirt fronting on the journalist? The kids could enter this competition … rocking heads, get themselves all pink in the face?

You might argue it would be difficult to act out the venom of Abbott however; Malcolm Turnbull provides an image much easier to parody. He has an interesting habit of placing one hand on his hip and strutting around the parliament floor waving his other hand in a rather limp manner. While Malcolm probably perceives this look to be Ciceroesque, it maybe better described as foppish!

While politics for the adults is grand fun, Inclusive Australia Day needs a strong kids component. Remember those ball-gobbling clowns of the old country Show days, with moving heads and almost unwinnable potential prizes … fluffy toys for the kids. There are a number of political faces that could be used as great models for papier-mache clowns … fleshy mouthed Tim Wilson with a little IPA sign around his neck or perhaps a grimly smilely George Christianson marked with One National and a third lively fellow could be Barnably Joyce with perhaps a simple EXNZ identifer? As these three amigos are Right-wingers they are reluctant to swing their heads to the left. Perhaps the kids might have to wait patiently to slot that ball into a gobbling mouth as it turns away from the right to the left?

An egg and spoon races for the kids would be terrific too. Initially eggs provded for the kids to decorate as Peter Dutton with best image winning the prize and then off with the spoons for a race. Hard-boiled eggs ia best for Dutton as the kids might just want to chuck randomly and later Dads could shell the Dutton eggs and cook up some inspired non-Anglo recipe for all to enjoy!

Bad fashion day could be fun for both women and blokes … who could imitate Lucy’s bad taste Sydney attire best or dear oh dear Michaela Cash’s odd identical pastel suites … some great op shop opportunities there!

Could be great fun … Inclusive Australia Day.

So let’s get back to being UnAustralian because as Australians we do that rather well!

*Josephine Zananiri lives in the Independent electorate of Indi in Germantown Vic and currently works in the manual labour arena tending native and exotic trees, so has plenty of time to think. Followed everywhere by her two dogs Percy and Fino who generally agree on all subjects, only occasionally deserting the conversation in the chase for samba deer! Slight differences in logic can therefore be attributed to the two woofers leaving their critical post!

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27 Comments

27 Comments

  1. Russell

    February 13, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    Re #25
    The problem is that “the knowledge that comes from experience which gets engrained in the genetic material and passed on to the next generation” has systematically been hindered at every corner by successive government policies for over 200 years.

    And that knowledge and experience has also been totally ignored.

    It is government policy which has always been the problem, not the victims of it.

  2. Russell

    February 12, 2018 at 11:17 am

    Re #24
    Republic is not just a name. In our Constitution we are protected somewhat from the selfish ambitions of those in Government.

    In a Republic all that would end and our new Constitution and rights will be up for sale.

    We will be more persecuted, restricted and hounded than ever before.

    Just get rid of the Party system and leave our Constitution alone.

  3. Simon Warriner

    February 12, 2018 at 7:05 am

    Russel, what I am referring to is not raw intelligence, it is the knowledge that comes from experience which gets engrained in the genetic material and passed on to the next generation, and those are two distinct and different things.

  4. Tony Stone

    February 11, 2018 at 10:34 pm

    #22 … What? Become a Republic and be like the USA? No way.

    At least while we are part of the Commonwealth we are still somewhat Constitutionally protected from the losers in Parliament and their string pullers.

    Republic is just a name, but we need a totally different governance system that gives real power to the people. That can only be attained by online referendum style government, meaning the people would only have to vote for heads of departments, one or two to represent the people and ensure the policies they decide upon are put into action as the people want. No need for politicians, boards, senior department managers, or any useless bureaucratic academics. Just real people power and that’s it.

    It will come because we have no other option to take. As for being part of the commonwealth being a bonus – ridiculous. It restricts us, encumbers us and keeps us under the control of the god cult.

    Nothing can or will go froward that is attached to the god cult because it is way past its use by date. From now on, all that those of the god cult can look forward to is disaster.

    That’s what we are seeing worldwide in all societies under the influence of this cult. Those of other ideologies are also collapsing, and if we are to survive we need to cut the apron strings of the commonwealth and rein in the god cult in this country.

    But it won’t happen as just about everyone is either attached to the cult, or are to scared to rock the boat.

    So it won’t matter who we vote for, the outcome will be the same and can only change if we get rid of the current political system and parties.

  5. Russell

    February 11, 2018 at 11:50 am

    “Class, creed and nationality are words which should find no place in the vocabulary of the Australians, because these words are synonymous with everything that is hostile to the peace and happiness of the world; they are written deep on the bloodiest fields that ever lay under battle smoke.” Henry Lawson, 1890.

    Nothing has changed or been learned has it?

  6. Russell

    February 10, 2018 at 5:41 pm

    Re #1 & 2
    What? Become a Republic and be like the USA? No way.

    At least while we are part of the Commonwealth we are still somewhat Constitutionally protected from the losers in Parliament and their string pullers.

    Re #17
    “Perhaps they simply do not have the mental tools to cope with rapid and radical change of the type being forced upon them.”

    They have the intelligence alright Simon, that’s why they actually survived the invasion and illegal dispossession. The problem is the opposite where the invaders couldn’t adapt to the country, have never listened to the owners, and have all but destroyed it trying to make it like the old country, and when they failed there they set out to dig it up and cut it down to flog off overseas for a pittance.

    As for those racists posting here, it’s damningly obvious you have never had anything to do with Indigenous Australians on any personal one-on-one level. If you have to ask others for their opinion or just parrot the racist derogatory crap you here in the pub, you know nothing, in my opinion.

    Does ‘modern western society’ have a cure for the cold or flu and any gut bug problem causing diarrhoea? No. But Indigenous Australians have, for a very very long time, and it can be found in every part of the country. Who are the primitives?

    If you’re too lazy or ignorant to actually find out the reality and truth in person, get yourself educated and watch Warwick Thornton’s “We Don’t Need a Map” and “Sweet Country”. And read Bill Gammage’s “The Biggest Estate”.

  7. Tony Stone

    February 9, 2018 at 11:11 am

    #16, the principle of maths is real, in the context of our understanding of universal reality and helps us evolve technologically.

    The principle of a mythologically proven, self confessed god of war and destruction, being a loving warmonger and there being positive benefits from that belief, are the complete opposite to truth and the recorded historical facts in all ways.

    The use of a fantasy land negative (Aladdin’s cave), to support a mythological negative, (god), is not conducive to rational logic or sane reasoning. Which is no different to how the genocidal invading christians claims to indigenous as they slaughtered enslaved, chained and poisoned, that their god was loving and would provide them with good life. But only if they succumbed to the abuse, enslavement abduction, poisoning and imprisonment, otherwise they would and did get murdered.

    Why should sane Australians celebrate those atrocities, especially when all the evidence shows that day, was not a day to celebrate. But one to mourn the death of an ecologically sustainable land of nations and societies, living together for tens of thousands of years.

    Yet the perpetrators of this and innumerable genocidal invasions worldwide, claim it is a day to celebrate. Just as they celebrate all their deranged wars, suppressions and never ending abuses, claiming they are good for the people.

    If we need a day to celebrate the existence of our present culture, it must come on a day which doesn’t represent anything of the god cult, nor the debaucheries they constantly carry out against all life. But a day where this country is free from the programmed clones of controlling ideologies and can look forward to a real future. Not just the short term one offered by the god of wars deranged supporters, who always end up fighting amongst themselves or attacking non believers.

    We need a peaceful day for celebration and a flag to represents one Australian society, not the current demands of crazed ideologues, and their insane beliefs. Who want their bizarre insanities recognised, so they can fracture society and fulfill the demands of their mythology, disruption, war and their myths final solution, at any cost to life.

  8. spikey

    February 9, 2018 at 1:00 am

    i think nagle is a piss take
    bloke should be more careful
    where he pisses

  9. TGC

    February 8, 2018 at 11:04 pm

    A solution to aboriginal disadvantage may be to award each such a yearly salary of-say- $100.000 -indexed- together with free substantial housing-of their choice – and then let them see their own way in life either traditionally or in the ‘European’ way.

  10. Christopher Eastman-Nagle

    February 8, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    I think that libertarian humanists have used aboriginal populations to prop up their own legitimacy and wonky social ideology in a totally shameless experiment in colonization of a vulnerable population that could be sold anything.

    They have systematically blame shifted the bankruptcy of their own ideology and social practices by ongoingly blame shifting their egregious and manifold failures and incompetence onto previous administration and those who have to manage the chaotically dysfunctional social product it produces, in exactly the same way as the Soviet dictatorship did during the 1930s.

    These ideologues have been the social arm of a regime designed to remove social and reproductive values that deliver responsible adult agency as an inter-generational legacy, in favour of short term privatized deregulation on behalf of private interests and individuals, at the expense of the viability of the common weal and sustainable social practice.

    This has been bad news for everyone, but absolutely disastrous for aboriginal communities.

    The fact that they represent themselves as well meaning, compassionate and committed to doing good merely underlines the old adage that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    They are not even remotely benign and can be guaranteed to maintain the helpless and stranded status of aboriginal populations indefinitely, by keeping THEIR descendants in indefinite bureaucratic employ to maintain a status quo that works for them….not their ‘helpless’ clients.

    It isn’t just the terrible inertia of 60,000 years that is preventing aboriginal populations from taking their appropriate place in the modern world.

    Nor is it just the distressing history of displacement and disruption that they had to endure during the process of modern colonization and the establishment of its industry, land tenament and social practices, that every other colonial and semi-colonial population on the planet had to deal with and adapt to.

    It is the the rise of petty bourgeois clique of humanities department bureaucrats and academics who spewed out of our universities at the same time and for the same reasons as the economics department free marketeers, who have provided aboriginal populations with every conceivable rationalization and excuse why they can’t possibly move on from their very difficult past, out of their completely disabling present, towards an empowering vision of themselves that doesn’t need or want them as proud sponsors of their old failures and incompetencies.

    They would be infinitely better off in cahoots with some Muslim Imams, properly disciplined madrassas (religious schools) and the rule Sharya Law, to clean up the mess left by their libertarian predecessors, armed with some decent governance and children who have some values, respect and can read and write, because learning and obedience isn’t optional.

  11. Simon Warriner

    February 8, 2018 at 6:34 pm

    I have read a few articles recently that talk about the changes in a parents life being embedded in the DNA of their children. As is said, it is a lot easier to be a genius at something both your parents were gifted at.

    If those articles are correct, and my experience with livestock and observation of humanity would seem to suggest they most likely are, then it seems reasonable to hypothesise that a group of people who have lived a primitive, nomadic life for forty thousand years without the level of change experienced by those who imposed themselves upon the ancient culture would not have the same genetic ability to cope with the rapid and often negative new experiences thrust upon them as, say a European or even a Melanesian whose exposure to trade and other cultures had been ongoing over a long period of time. To denigrate individuals who derive their genetic material primarily from that ancient culture for its problems coping with changes has been done in this thread seems, to me anyway, to demonstrate an ignorance entirely consistent with being educated beyond ones natural ability. Perhaps they simply do not have the mental tools to cope with rapid and radical change of the type being forced upon them. Forty thousand years is a very long time to be doing the same thing, and they did become very very good at that. In fact they may well have discovered some knowledge that our rapid fire approach has mislaid along the way, if it was ever stumbled upon in the first place.

    It would be interesting to compare and contrast the success or otherwise of assimilation of various aboriginal groups and see if there is indeed a correlation with the level of sophistication and exposure to other cultures. Say the desert tribes of the inland with the tribes of the more fertile southern coast and the tribes of the northern and north west coast who had long standing contact with the Indonesian and Melanesian peoples.

    And that throw away line about the Jews getting “their” country back. Genetics wise, most of the European Jews who relocated to Israel were Khazars, not Semites. And the Jews came from only one of the twelve tribes of Israel, if my memory serves me right, and so the descendants of the other eleven tribes have a far better claim, having never left, or been booted out. Running around proclaiming you are better than everyone else does tend to make you less welcome after a while. Strange that they have not figured that out yet and modified their behaviour like socially competent people normally do. Perhaps it has something to do with the narcissistic Zionist cult using that religion towards its own ends.

  12. Peter Bright

    February 8, 2018 at 2:52 pm

    Tony Stone at #15 is still vigorously surfing his monster wave of damning indignation about “the god cult” – but in doing so he reminds me of the student who writes the wrong answer in his mathematics test.

    Furious, this errant lad does not see that there’s nothing wrong with the principles of mathematics – just the erroneous way they are sometimes perceived.

    The principles of mathematics are absolutely real, and when utilised correctly by the perceptive student they can be used without scar or diminution forever.

    These absolute principles are not aware of the cranky student tearing his hair out and stomping on the floor, and the sooner he forsakes his anger and wakes up and becomes aware of this the sooner he is likely to secure admittance to an Aladdin’s cave of benefits unimaginably profound.

  13. Tony Stone

    February 8, 2018 at 1:11 pm

    “At least if our aboriginal friends get a decent modern education they will be able to participate in the modern experiment in a much more empowered way, that enables them to cope with some of its more corrosive features. And if they got a bit of old style Melanesian evangelicalism into them, they might do even better.

    “I do not believe in God, but I can still see the value of being part of a religious congregation that still believes in goodness, virtue and the saving grace that brings with it, no matter how fallible it sometimes is.”

    #13
    Seems you don’t have a clue about indigenous rural life, nor how they feel and view the world. The approach you advocate is the one which has destroyed any indigenous enthusiasm to bring their culture into this century.

    Just love those who make the claim, they don’t believe in god, then turn round and say there is goodness, virtue and saving grace that the god cult brings.

    Wasn’t it christian evangelism that murderously invaded Aus and tried to wipe out indigenous? Wasn’t it the christian churches who enslaved, poisoned and abused the indigenous?

    Didn’t that happen, in every country society and culture the god cult invaded and desperately tried to commit total genocide?

    Isn’t every war since beginning of this era been fought by and because of the god cults invasive and destructive insanity? Isn’t every conflict on the planet today being carried out by members of the god cult … who also happen to be the biggest weapons manufacturers on the planet?

    Didn’t our god loving PM just advocate Aus becoming a major weapons of war exporter which represents the true, factual, “goodness, virtue and the saving grace” the god cult brings to our planet?

    To fix the indigenous problems requires a very different approach to their education and not one controlled by members of the god cult, in government, bureaucracy and slave camps (missions).

    They have to be shown how they can bring their society into this century so they can practise their wonderful sustainable culture in a modern healthy and evolving way.

    The current approach is that they either accept the debilitating and soul destroying government suppression and hand outs, or they get nothing.

    The quicker we get rid of the god cult controlled party political system and replace it with online people governance the better. The quicker we can develop an approach which gives the indigenous a real future, one which we can all learn from and emulate in many ways, the better.

    If we had sane rational politicians and not god nutters and supposed do gooders developing that sort of approach we could have a real Australia day, after becoming free of the god cult controlled commonwealth. One that represents all free Australians and not the insane god nutters desperate to destroy everything, as advocated and demanded by their mythological god of war.

  14. Lynne Newington

    February 8, 2018 at 11:51 am

    Posted by Christopher.
    “If our aboriginal brothers and sisters don’t move off their cultural arses that they have been sitting on for the last 60,000 years, and make the effort to port what is going to work for them within the modern setting, they will just keep rotting and decaying into a corrupt cultural senescence that will keep them on the leading edge of crime, dysfunctional governance and corrupt behavior indefinitely”.
    I thinks that’s more than just a little harsh Chris not withstanding there are many who hold the same views.
    In the WA Goldfieds during my time there, they were absolutely lost with the white civilization totally exploiting them with the money dished out to them by the government.
    It was a shocking sight seeing them living in the bush with children as they were with all their dogs who were used as blankets to keep the warm in winter [so I was told when querying it].
    When they ran out of “plonk”, it was the local store [the owner an Irish Catholic] who allowed them to book it up till next payday.
    I know because I worked there and could see they had lost their worth as our first Australians and felt ashamed.

  15. Christopher Eastman-Nagle

    February 8, 2018 at 12:46 am

    Lynne, #12 Nobody is saying here that they weren’t spiritual people. But what they were confronted with was the absolute necessity to move much of their spiritual suite with the times.

    The transformational world that modernity presented gave an enormous range of opportunity for native peoples to port some of their traditions into the new religion, much as newly converted Christians in Europe did in the early centuries of our era.

    The Thursday Islanders and the New Guinean Melanesians have done a lot of that both within mainstream Christianity and just outside it in a wealth of creative adaptation and syncretism. So have the Maori. And that has contributed enormously to their ‘spiritual’ resilience. It has given them a buffer against the more corrupt secular trends of our times.

    If our aboriginal brothers and sisters don’t move off their cultural arses that they have been sitting on for the last 60,000 years, and make the effort to port what is going to work for them within the modern setting, they will just keep rotting and decaying into a corrupt cultural senescence that will keep them on the leading edge of crime, dysfunctional governance and corrupt behavior indefinitely.

    And it is more than just urgent. In the 2016 South Australian Royal Commission into the drowning social welfare system there, it found that 9 out of 10 aboriginal children will be the subject of a welfare notification before they grow up.

    If they do not change their attitude and make the necessary move to join the times we live in with commitment, particularly to modern education, they face existential annihilation.

    And by the way, we have nothing to crow about either. The baleful influence of the libertarian agenda over the last 70 years has affected the rest of us. The same Royal Commission found that 4 out of 10 children overall would be subject to welfare notification, which is an appalling figure and indicative of how ruinous disinhibition posing as liberty really is.

    At least if our aboriginal friends get a decent modern education they will be able to participate in the modern experiment in a much more empowered way, that enables them to cope with some of its more corrosive features. And if they got a bit of old style Melanesian evangelicalism into them, they might do even better.

    I do not believe in God, but I can still see the value of being part of a religious congregation that still believes in goodness, virtue and the saving grace that brings with it, no matter how fallible it sometimes is.

  16. Lynne Newington

    February 7, 2018 at 9:01 pm

    I’m just keeping it simple Christopher……as it is here in Australia amongst our own indigenous and their abuse by our religious.
    An interesting observation you made in relation to missionaries and dynamic Christian growth…..
    Mission systems came at a cruel price, even here in Australia where the Aborigine’s were classed as heathen, now all these years down the track their spirituality is being acknowledged and respected, even assimilated in the Catholic Church.

  17. spikey

    February 7, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    modern imperial pressure
    a lot like historical imperial pressure
    my way or the highway
    narcissistic bullyboy delusions
    or the product of fascist propaganda
    this is how it is
    there can be no better way
    therefore
    at any cost
    keep calm and carry on
    assimilate
    assimilate

    the question i have
    is why does have erryone else have to assimilate
    to fascist bullyboy delusions?

  18. Christopher Eastman-Nagle

    February 7, 2018 at 7:37 pm

    Lynne #9. The ‘dynamic’ I am talking about is as much about what didn’t happen as what did.

    While the response of just about everyone else who was subjected to modern imperial pressure was some kind of adaptive process that ran a combination spanning rebellion and/or collaboration, the aboriginal one was to slump and withdraw from engagement.

    Worldwide during the colonial period, modern education became the critical underpin of both ends of the rebellion/collaboration response spectrum, because it lifted the objects of metropolitan colonization and imperial dominance into being players in the same game.

    That was why the South African Boers were so concerned to prevent black education being anything but the absolute basics, and why black South Africans were determined to get their hands on the full suite of this very empowering tool.

    Switched on colonial and semi-colonial people wanted whatever it was the masters of the world were having. They wanted their piece of the action and clearly saw the leverages and opportunities that the dominant system offered to get them there.

    In British India, the Brahmin class couldn’t get enough British education because they saw it as a passport into the imperial bureaucracy, up to the senior levels. Aboriginals in Australia weren’t even vaguely interested, even in getting the basics, that had been so successfully applied by missionaries in Africa, who got their converts up the first rung in the colonial ladder. They got their first bishop in 1857.

    So, in sunny Australia, slumping was the name of the game. And if you have ever tried to manoeuvre or lift someone who is physically slumped, it is next to impossible. And political/social slumping is just the same.

    There is no answer to slumping because it can’t and won’t deliver the necessary engagement to make anything happen. So it doesn’t matter what colonial administrators tried with aboriginal populations to bring them ‘into the system’, it failed; every time a coconut; one hand clapping.

    In the end they were forced to take full control of aboriginal communities, assume non co-operation or self help, and drive the whole interaction unilaterally. Worse, increasingly they start to assume that no matter what they did, it would be good money being thrown after bad.

    So, all the policy options devolved back to either keeping the problem decently out of sight and out of mind, or ham fistedly attempting some salvage with part aboriginal children, like they had done relatively successfully in the mission system in West Africa… which incidentally is now the most dynamic Christian growth demographic on the planet.

    You only have to go a short way into the Torres Strait to places like Thursday Island, where the native population was Melanesian, and the politics were completely different, as indeed they were amongst the Maori in Aotearoa. As peoples they were engaged, albeit in a pretty tough game, sometimes enduring defeat, but not giving up and willing to take their opportunities with alacrity, when they came.

    That is what I mean when I talk about interactive dynamic…Aboriginal helpless poor thingism is a white liberal myth that is a perfect fit for their slumping ideological customers and a legitimizing tool for the social/cultural side of libertarian dominance.

    But much worse, its corrupt package of disinhibition posing as liberty reinforces the downward spiral of their helpless clients into a form of cultural doomsday that we will follow in the not far distant future, if we don’t do something about it, by reregulating what little is left of our all but destroyed social commons, putting some non-negotiable bottom lines in place and ruthlessly enforcing them.

  19. Lynne Newington

    February 7, 2018 at 11:18 am

    “The way aboriginal peoples were treated and how they fared wasn’t just a one way process, but a dynamic and interactive one.”
    You aren’t serious are you……apart from the obvious how many white fella’s helped to populate their communities making them outcasts.
    And lets face it, up until recently they were fair game for abuse by our own religious.

    I’m all for the “Pollyanna” ‘mentality but……

  20. Christopher Nagle

    February 7, 2018 at 8:34 am

    Lynne,#5, no one is suggesting that the modernizing ‘experiment’ wasn’t tough on everyone who had their way of life peremptorily removed, from the peasants who lost their land during the enclosure movement onwards.

    If you are looking at the dark side of change, you will never have any trouble finding it.

    But the overwhelming argument here is about how any group of people move or don’t move to adapt to the prevailing change vectors.

    The way aboriginal peoples were treated and how they fared wasn’t just a one way process, but a dynamic and interactive one. It is a grotesquely simplistic one dimensional view to suggest that they were purely ‘victims’, any more than their colonial interlocutors were merely ‘unconscionable bastards’.

    Such personalization of historical forces is what Lenin would have called, an infantile Disorder that cannot differentiate cause and effect, or the basics of inter-cultural analysis and denies the absolute necessity for flexible agency. The only people who have ever been able to buck that one were the Jews, and it took nearly a couple thousand years of almost unbelievable faith, capacity to absorb losses, rigorous discipline, hard work and sheer luck to get their land back.

    If you do any comparative analysis of political and cultural outcomes across the colonial and semi colonial world, they were all different. And that difference was how well people who were at the pointy end of the impact of modernization and the metropolitan powers that drove it, were able to respond to the uniform global pressures being applied to them.

    There was a bell curve of outcomes with the Japanese at one end, who modernized in a generation to produce a world power. At the other end you have Australian aboriginals, the majority of whom are still haplessly trying to pretend to themselves that they can wait the beast out, even if the price is complete marginalization and disintegration.

    History doesn’t stop for laggards. The Chinese thought they were so superior, they didn’t need to take the western barbarians seriously. Yes they did, and the price of not doing so was a really hideous century and a bit of getting one ghastly hiding after another, which got worse as it went, until they finally got with the picture.

    That is what has and is still happening to our aboriginal brothers and sisters. And the ‘experimental’ application of libertarian humanist ideas on them since the late nineteen sixties has been been the latest, worst and unkindest cut of all; absolute chaos.

    Libertarian humanists are in no position to morally judge anybody else until they take a good look at what they have done, not just to the wretched aboriginals, but the larger social infrastructure as well. The are The social Establishment of our day, with a nasty track record to match.

    As for our aboriginal friends, they either walk the road into the city of the modern imagination, or get rolled into its surface.

    Their call.

  21. spikey

    February 6, 2018 at 10:52 pm

    i asked once before – is it art?
    my hat off to the darkest of arts
    so i may vomit in it

  22. Christopher Nagle

    February 6, 2018 at 8:25 pm

    Re #4 Thanks for that Tim.

    One of the nice things about the formation of Australia as a united national entity was that it didn’t have to either fight the metropolitan colonial power or fight off other metropolitan powers to get it.

    The peaceful, seamless and continentally united nation state didn’t have any of the ‘liberation’ warfare drama to bang drums about subsequently. That is why almost no one knows (or cares about) the actual day that our federation was formalized out of the very protracted, laborious and factious process of negotiation between the colonies that made it up; i.e., January 1st.

    January 1st was a minor event as part of a seamless process of progressive decolonization. The only role for the British government was to wait for the provincials to eventually hammer out the terms and conditions they wanted, and then rubber stamp it.

    Boring as batshit….

    The arrival of the first modern community on this continent on the other hand was far more interesting and historically significant.

    The first landing of a modern community was a very dramatic gesture not dissimilar in its own day to stepping onto Mars. It took six months to get here.

    More, it had taken from the time of the first agricultural villages between the Tigris and the Euphrates to 1788 to get permanent boots on the ground in a place that hadn’t seen any ‘New Chums’ since the land bridge to South-East Asia submerged under the Torrens Strait.

    It represents a civilizational change of gear when the place jump starts from hunting and gathering into the full modern suite, and celebrates the amazing good fortune that the whole thing happened under the aegis of a single world power that could guarantee continental security against all other comers until 1942, and who gave us some semblance of democratic governance and the rule of law.

    We were spared the kind of inter-colonial warfare that blighted North America earlier in the eighteenth century, or worse, the prospect of much nastier post colonial warfare between separate nation states forced to share the continental space.

    We can all thank our lucky stars that what eventually became the nation state of Australia got such an easy ride into the history books, which meant we are a very lucky country, extremely privileged to be here and should be counting our blessings, which I think we do in great grass roots style, despite the ideological loudmouths who have to whinge on behalf of minorities because they can’t get a mass following of their own anymore.

    Sure, if one is part of the 4% (which includes the all-but-something-else mostly petty bourgeois ‘metrobigenes’, putting them on a par with the Italians or the Chinese) aboriginal minority, it isn’t so easy, because it was on the wrong side of all that. It was really bad luck and very traumatic for them when at last the rest of the world caught up with them and broke their ancient mesolithic stone age reverie forever.

    But as with all the rest of us who have been repeatedly defeated and invaded in a ten thousand year period of convulsive disruption of comfortable ruts, we had to suck it up, get over it and move on. Aboriginals can thank their lucky stars it wasn’t the Maori or the Japanese Imperial Army who got into the place before or after the British did.

    They really did do massacres, especially in the case of the latter, who did it on an industrial scale.

    It was their culture you see….not laissez-faire frontier skirmishing farmer pissfarting, but rounding up the entire continental population and over a couple of weeks, systematically shooting the lot; you know, a real genocidal fascist massacre…..

    So aboriginal brothers and sisters, you are welcome to join the fun. All you have to do is start to build your stake in what Australia has become. Get some wins on the board, like the ex child soldier from the Horn of Africa, who came here with a whole bunch of traumatic memories, no English and nothing but what he stood up in, and is now a full fledged lawyer.

    And no, seven out of eight of his great grandparents were not Europeans and he didn’t grow up in a comfortable suburban home and get a Charlie Perkins scholarship to Cambridge, where he got all the affluent white and just off white guy literature on Australian colonialism and imperialism, to tell him all about his ‘culture’ and ‘history’.

    He has a lot to celebrate on Australia Day and a lot of old memories to forget. I am sure he does it in fine style, and with pride in himself and what this lovely country has helped him become.

  23. Lynne newington

    February 6, 2018 at 8:07 pm

    Posted by Christopher.
    We will know that aboriginal communities are joining the modern experiment wholeheartedly when we don’t need truant officers any more to get them to go to school.

    I’ve recently been watching a few documentaries on our “first Australians” and it didn’t leave me without enormous regret and shame for what they endured from our experiments…….

  24. Tim Thorne

    February 6, 2018 at 11:55 am

    Whatever you call what happened on 26 January 1788, it didn’t happen to Australia. The nation of Australia came into being on 1 January 1901. For the first 93 years of its existence it didn’t even have a set date for its national day holiday.

    If the date is not changed then we in the majority of Australia’s states and territories could perhaps use the day to meditate on, and celebrate, what was happening here on 26 January 1788.

  25. Christopher Eastman-Nagle

    February 6, 2018 at 11:38 am

    What I particularly love about Australia Day are the joyous narratives of ‘New Australians’ who are now proud citizens of our fabulous multicultural experiment in the far south Pacific.

    They tell a great story about hope, struggle and success in a place that has given them a chance they would be hard pressed to get anywhere else.

    What I particularly like about these stories is that they are a positive message to our aboriginal brothers and sisters that the modern experiment is open to everyone and is quite prepared to include them if they want to come on board.

    A lot of these new migrants are a product of exactly the same colonial experience as was had here.They all in their various ways dealt with and used particularly the educational opportunities that modern times brought in their wake.

    It is very likely that at least one or two of our new chums came from South Africa and maybe lost a relative when police shot down hundreds of children and their parents for demanding a decent education in Soweto in ’76, because they understood how important and empowering a modern education is.

    We will know that aboriginal communities are joining the modern experiment wholeheartedly when we don’t need truant officers any more to get them to go to school.

    Maybe, when and if that happens, and they start to distribute themselves into our economy in the same way our New Chums are doing with alacrity, there will come Australia Days sometime in the future that they will want to celebrate, like pretty nearly everyone else on the planet, who have come to terms with their past, are fully engaged in the present and have a vision for themselves and their children that is worth getting up in the morning for.

    And the one thing that they really won’t need is liberal do gooding well meaners encouraging them to feel sorry for themselves, resentful, beaten and staying that way so that descendants of white and just off white bureaucrats will still have nice secure stipends looking after their helpless clients for the next two hundred years.

  26. Peter Black

    February 5, 2018 at 4:04 pm

    Agree Tony,
    that a call for change now, before addressing the Republic issue is meaningless.

    on another point connected
    watch how nationalistic, flag toting and political ranting the Left become, when, that day does occur 🙂

  27. Tony Stone

    February 4, 2018 at 11:44 am

    Changing the date of supposed Australia day, will not make one bit of difference. There is no date that represents Australia and never will be, until we become a republic with a people elected head of state and governance run by the people online.

    On that day, we will have a real Australia day that represents all people here and hopefully not some deranged ideology.

    Until then all this talk is just putting more nails in the coffin of a viable secure future.

    Those advocating, promoting and encouraging dissent to force a change now, are no better than those demanding this day should remain as it is.

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