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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

Economy

The Hope of Saving the Far N/W Tas Seabed from Salmon farms …

*Pic: of far N/W Tas seabed area – Hope Channel …

First published August 21

So we (concerned citizens) had our first public meeting regarding the Far N/W Salmon Farm Proposal at the Rocky Cape Tavern on 17 August 2017.

The media representative for Petuna Aquaculture basically told us of their goals:

They want 1000 hectares of water to put up to 100 fish pens. (Petuna Aquaculture is a partnership company 49% shared by NZ Sealord).

Now I know how David felt against Goliath.

How Daniel must have felt in the lions den.

To put this into perspective – 1000 hectares is an area the size of Walker Island.

And they want our sheltered waters in the lee of the 3 Hummocks and Hunter Island, this is known as Hope Channel.

What’s wrong with this?

Let me tell you …

The 3 Hummocks and the surrounding channels, mudflats and sandbars are the nursery areas for many species of marine life.

Our Crayfish spent time there as Phyllosoma

It’s a nursery for seahorses.

King George Whiting and Australian Salmon proliferate in these waters.

It is an essential habitat for a myriad of native and migratory water birds.

We cray in that area.

When the weather is rough the shark boats work there a lot

Abalone divers are there … and there is a commercial scallop bed as well.

The amateur fishing fleet catches gummy shark, Australian wild salmon, flathead and red schnapper and garfish in this area.

And NO-ONE prior to this meeting consulted the Stakeholders in North-West Tasmania.

As a crayfisherman I am horrified that –

1. The claim by government (Jeremy Rockliff) that prior to the Salmon Farm proposal, consultation took place (that’s an alternative truth).

2. The fact the Minister Rockliff claims moving the Salmonoid (fin fish industry) offshore is World’s Best Practice.

Let me assure you, after spending many hours of research on global salmon farming practices, this industry globally is in crisis – for habitat degradation and environmental and ecological vandalism.

We must have our submissions in by the 8th September.

http://dpipwe.tas.gov.au/sea-fishing-aquaculture/marine-farming-aquaculture/changes-to-salmon-industry-regulation/salmon-industry-growth-plan/draft-sustainable-industry-growth-plan-for-the-salmon-industry-have-your-say

So there is very little time to save the 3 Hummocks.

Because I feel the fear of defeat (and that is a bitter pill to swallow) I urge you all too actively lobby your respective political affiliations.

My belief is this goes beyond party politics and loyalties.

We need everyone’s support or we lose the 3 Hummocks for commercial and amateur fishing.

The petitions both on social media and hard copy are doing extremely well.

I quote from Richard Mounsey who signed the online petition …

“I’m an international fisheries consultant who has worked worldwide for 30 years and seen the good and bad aspects of fish farming. Fish farms are essential for community survival in places but not in Australia. The farms change the balance of nature and only those directly involved benefit. The seas belong to everyone and more so to the people who live closest. Let the local community say and judge what happens, not outside investors.”

But we need to do more.

Please get everyone to sign.

But more importantly, we need political muscle.

I urge you all. This is our only hope. Can we, the working class, stop a greedy corporate giant? With enough support, maybe !

We need Circular Head Council backing.

We need Ruth Forrest’s support.

We need Justine Keay’s support.

We need Malcolm Turnbull’s support.

We need Bill Shorten’s support.

We need the Greens support.

We need EVERYONE.

https://www.facebook.com/marineprotectiontasmania/

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Public_Save_the_3_Hummocks_From_the_Salmanoid_Industry/?pv=0&fb_action_ids=10155629679256779&fb_action_types=avaaz-org%3Asign

*Matthew Morgan is a professional fisherman who has shark-fished Bass Strait and 3 Hummock area for over 33 years. “I now Crayfish and have been doing that for 12 years. That is where I learned my lessons on using the marine environment in a sustainable and ecologically friendly manner. I live in Stanley, call Tasmania my home and simply want all users of our marine resources to do so in a sustainable manner. We are only the custodians for the next generation. Realising that let’s do the best job of it we possibly can.”

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48 Comments

48 Comments

  1. Claire Gilmour

    August 29, 2017 at 12:07 am

    Absolutely Brilliant – when reality talks – a must listen …

    https://www.tasmaniatalks.com.au/the-show/20515-local-fishermen-unhappy-with-tassal-solution-to-seals

  2. Claire Gilmour

    August 28, 2017 at 2:47 am

    #46 TGC, you got the message, plenty of chapters and verse through JGays/Gunns corruption … nothing different here.

    Just a different political corporate controlled ‘fish’ !

    I told you JGAY and Gunns would be proven to be on corp corruption train … and so it was … …

    Seemingly, even if the truth poked you in the eye with a sharp stick you wouldn’t believe it TGC.

    None are so blind, as those who cannot see …

    Or perhaps one could say … none are so stupid as those who wank effervescence in the light of truth, whilst destroying their own grandchildren’s future …

    Our grandparents didn’t fight for freedom to just have their grandchildren screwed by political corporate toads.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbkOZTSvrHs

    Ps Although I’m not aligned with Greens or any political party, Rosalie Woodruff is terrific, she should be leader of the Tas Greens, don’t you think … …

    http://oldtt.pixelkey.biz/index.php?/weblog/article/rti-confirms-liberals-at-behest-of-salmon-farming-industry/

    Still waiting to hear back from Jacquie Lambie and Shane Broad … hello ?

  3. TGC

    August 27, 2017 at 12:08 am

    #45 “…I deal only in truth and transparency.”
    And -as yet unfounded/unproven- allegations of bribery -“… heavily laden brown paper bags…” and corruption.
    It’d be exciting to get some chapter and verse on those things.

  4. Geoffrey Swan

    August 26, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    #43 Certainly gruesome footage Mark…it would be useful to hear from our local industry, or even an insider or a whistleblower as to whether anything similar is happening in our Tasmanian waterways.

    There was underwater footage provided to the Senate Inquiry taken by Abalone divers of the Salmon pens in the D’Entrecasteaux channel. The footage was GPS identified, time and date stamped; but the Senate Inquiry simply said it was anecdotal and non scientific – it is my understanding it was rejected out of hand.

    #44 Cannot resist you TGC… I do know what scuttlebutt is Trevor and if you have read any of my past writings on TT you would know I deal only in truth and transparency. I have no interest in anything other. And I know I have an ever increasing target on my back and I am not going to shut up.

  5. TGC

    August 26, 2017 at 3:29 pm

    #42 Mostly ‘through to the keeper’ but had to pause at “…your biased Liberal views…”
    and wondered where the capital ‘L’ came from?
    And then in a moment of weakness- I scrolled down a bit more and came across
    “Let me assure you without any equivocation.. heavily laden brown paper bags are a well accepted and known about business transaction mechanism in this part of Southern Tasmania.. corruption reigns… and frankly it stinks. I have knowledge of corruption in the Aquaculture industry though I certainly will not be sharing it with inconsequential persons such as yourself.”Apart from not expecting that “knowledge of corruption in the Aquaculture industry …” would be shared with me- I am disinterested in scuttlebut- one would expect #42 would have found and informed an ‘independent’ authority of the information re ‘widespread corruption in southern Tasmania’- not just ‘wuidespread’ but it “reigns” suggesting it is the sole way of business down south- and it continues as strange it never gets that sort of ‘inquiry’
    More evidence of ‘corruption’?
    Who can we trust #42?

  6. mark

    August 26, 2017 at 1:34 pm

    Similar debate has kicked off in Canada recently. God knows why you’d want to farm atlantic salmon on the west coast, but thousands of them escaped recently when a pen failed and now there’s all sorts of questions being asked.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/video-appears-to-show-disfigured-farmed-salmon-1.4261637

  7. Geoffrey Swan

    August 26, 2017 at 2:06 am

    #oh dear Trevor… IMV you are totally incapable of contributing anything positive or useful.. your ongoing modus operandi appears to be to attack at every level, requote what others write and then post some pathetic “clever” comment. Your voice is simply a waste of space (IMV)…. your existance on TT is up there with the likes of Mickey Mouse and Barney Rubble. I throw you a challenge.. I appeal to your good sense of knowledge and apparent wisdom… and you fail me yet again. Where do you get off TGC… are you unable to contribute to intelligent discussion…

    I have been privately warned by others about your insincerity, your biased Liberal views and your bullish and arrogant behaviour which until now I have chosen to ignore. I am therefore the fool for my belief in you as a person with something to offer.

    Let me assure you without any equivocation.. heavily laden brown paper bags are a well accepted and known about business transaction mechanism in this part of Southern Tasmania.. corruption reigns… and frankly it stinks. I have knowledge of corruption in the Aquaculture industry though I certainly will not be sharing it with inconsequential persons such as yourself. As another writer said recently on another post.. Ciao…. I have better things to do.

  8. Claire Gilmour

    August 26, 2017 at 1:15 am

    #37 Be careful Trevor (TGC). Is it who you know or what you know or both …

    The new Salmon farm area proposal is nothing but a political tool at the moment.

    To be honest I don’t actually mind the Libs Michael Ferguson, he helped give me teeth … all the better to chew the likes of little Trevor’s with …

    Petuna said they need another couple more years to see if viable, and couldn’t envisage a salmon farm placed in the far N/W coast for about 3 years. All on film and recorded Trevor.

    So why now the Libs banging on and on about Salmon farming being the new financial saviour of the state? If not for being a political hope vote getting tool for the coming state election!

    So the trev, anti-environment on anything sycophant. – who I suggest doesn’t have the first hand clue on Salmon Farming. When was the last time you actually, in the flesh saw, were on/associated with a salmon farm? I guess NEVER!

    Do you just get your hype from just reading hype? I guess so.

    I’ve actually had a private tour of a salmon farm in action, by a Tassal employee, lucky me!

    From the mega freshwater dam construction – to feed freshwater into the salmon pens, even tho the actual area is quite a dry on land farming area – think about that!
    to the night time tour with seal scaring crackers,
    to actual gun shots fired killing the seal !!!!!! – that’s called a paperwork nightmare apparently – not publicly released – but it happens!

    Nothing quite like seeing, experiencing, getting insider information …

    Right time, right place, story of my life 😉

    Maybe you should take up another hobby trev – bowls or knitting or something, at least something you may eventually, simply, understand?

    What is also often not appreciated is the insider experiences/knowledge in regard to the freshwater effects, as Geoffrey Swan talks about. The salmon require lots, indeed mega amounts of freshwater, where from does this come, who does it affect down stream?

    My community needs to know that too, before massive salmon farms are placed in the far N/W coast.

  9. TGC

    August 26, 2017 at 12:08 am

    #39 Just when it looked like this could be a reasonable approach- fully independent analysis- which would have acceptance we get this “…unless of course the brown paper bag full of notes changes hands between these “independent small businesses” and the “clean, green. aquaculture companies”.

  10. Geoffrey Swan

    August 25, 2017 at 11:08 pm

    Forgot to mention a crucial element in my suggestion of an independent lab doing the testing… the invoice is simply sent to the company – HAC in this case and they pay the costs. They are already using their own staff for this testing so surely no issue here.. and with a $58m profit (Tassal) and a $28m profit (HAC).. surely a few thousand dollars extra per year for the sake of even more jobs in Tassie will not break the bank.

    Upside – truly independent testing and science and maybe then (as you allude to at #37 Trevor).. maybe then thinking intelligent people will begin to accept the scientific evidence…unless of course the brown paper bag full of notes changes hands between these “independent small businesses” and the “clean, green. aquaculture companies”.

  11. Geoffrey Swan

    August 25, 2017 at 10:39 pm

    TGC.. given your apparent magnificent knowledge on just about any subject on TT… perhaps you can assist me with a conundrum that has plagued me for years.

    Forgive me Matthew whilst I again divert this post to the best kept secret of freshwater aquaculture….(a passion of mine) one of the 15+ Salmon hatcheries located on once pristine freshwater rivers throughout Tasmania is the Huon Aquaculture Company hatchery on the Russell River in Lonnavale. For the past 10 years Frances and Peter Bender (let us not forget.. once a small family business and Frances herself tells us she is the daughter of a farmer in the Huon Valley and that she has a great respect for the environment) allow this hatchery to discharge some 26 million litres of fish farm sewerage into the Russell every day of the year – regardless of the river flow.

    In 2007 the Huon Valley Council served them with an Environmental Protection Notice because of the downstream devastation to this once pristine mountain stream. In 2008 the newly formed EPA got involved, told Parliament they would very soon issue an EPN but sat on their hands for another 6 years until October 2014 when they finally served them with the second EPN. This EPN had nutrient limits imposed on the sewerage outfall to supposedly stop or at best severally limit the downstream eutrophication of the Russell – filamentous long fluorescent green algae and a year round slippery brown slime on the riverbed. (Meanwhile upstream.. the water and river bed remains pristine to this day). The first problem with this EPN is the limits were set in agreement with the polluter (HAC) to allow them to grow some 6+ tonnes of brood fish in their antiquated outdoor flow through clay ponds. The limits also allowed them to feed up to 1 tonne of fish feed per month. Ideally, these limits would mean their sewerage discharge would have minimal impact on the river. Wrong.

    A second EPN was served by the EPA but still in June 2017 this year we witnessed some of the worst downstream devastation we have seen since 2009 – and that was when the river was a cold 9°C, the water flow was high and we were at the shortest days of the year. I mention this because the EPA keep telling me the conditions for algal growth are warmth, low flow and increased daylight hours.

    Something is not working…. just maybe this small stream cannot sustain the 26 million litres of fish shit water discharging into the river every day of the year. Maybe HAC need to close their no longer best practice flow through and spend the $1m dollars they told me in 2015 it would cost to move to a sealed recirculating system with zero discharge to the environment – “money we do not have” said David Mitchell, GM of HAC in October 2015. Or maybe they need to breed “less” brood fish and stop the greed for the sake of other users of this river.

    Or maybe the EPA needs to have the balls to step up and require them to change this shocking practice that has been banned in some countries – what industry is allowed to discharge raw shit into a river in this day and age?

    My dilemma… the issue with this industry is the self-regulation and self-monitoring and the recent Senate Inquiry failed us all on this issue. Whilst the EPA have served HAC the two EPN’s.. guess who takes the water samples? HAC staff of course. They are meant to take them at certain times at a certain GPS location… but hello.. can even you see the problem here Trevor?

    Director EPA Wes Ford tells me they do not have the resources to do their own testing. Fair enough.. with some 4000+ environmental sites Tasmania wide the EPA have their work cut out for them. So I make a suggestion to Mr Ford – the EPA contracts an independent scientific company to take the samples, they give them to the independent labs and the results are given to the EPA (and HAC).

    Wes Fords simply responds and tells me “legislation prohibits us from doing this”. Surely here is another opportunity for jobs, jobs, jobs in Tasmania – imagine some 10+ small businesses doing all the testing – new businesses, new jobs, jobs in rural Tasmania…

    Any thoughts TGC?

  12. TGC

    August 25, 2017 at 6:15 pm

    #36 “Where is the research data to show this far N/W Tas area is at all appropriate for Salmon Farming?”
    Now , fair dinkum- by this question #36 is trying to indicate that were such data available and it gave a big tick to the project #36 would accept ‘scientific evidence’
    Now. #36, like so many others on this topic opposes salmon farming absolutely despite ‘I(we/us) are not opposed to salmon farming’ and will always challenge any ‘data’that supports projects.
    Any reading of the whole of #36 will shew opposition to salmon farming is, for that contributor- a political -anti Liberal- statement-

  13. Claire Gilmour

    August 25, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    # 32 Robin Halton said “The industry provides certainty for jobs and growth in Circular Head …”

    I didn’t see you at the Rocky Cape meeting Robin. If you had been, you would have heard from the proponent that –

    1. The processing will be done at their Devonport factory – so no jobs in the far N/W in that regard.

    2. Many of the jobs will require experienced salmon farming people – so there is not a natural transition from a milking job (or forestry job for that matter) to a salmon farm job – except if you’re a ‘milker’ of a politician of course.

    You say – “… hence the dispersed nature of fish farming in Circular Head.”

    Again were you at the meeting? Do you know something the community has not been told?

    Petuna said they were pretty much focused on a specific area, with a broad outlook. Petuna are only the first, once the area is opened up for Salmon farming, the others will be in like Flynn.

    Get on facebook – look up – No Fish Farms in Tasmania’s East Coast Waters. See the video on the far N/W coast Rocky Cape meeting and educate yourself.

    I do appreciate that Rockliffe did listen a little though …

    http://oldtt.pixelkey.biz/index.php?/pr-article/sustainable-salmon-industry-growth-plan-public-comment-/

    Well how about that – ask the proponent on film to ask the government for an extension in a room full – and one can receive 🙂

    I say thank you – with a but.

    Extension is still not long enough!

    The people of the far N/W coast have little to no data/research given from either government or the proponents to base concise comment on. It’s a huge area that is proposed on the far N/W Tasmanian coast.

    Tell us what you based the chosen area on …

    Out of sight, out of mind?; A compliant and essentially Liberal council agreement?; Desperation?; Liberal votes on the back of a spurious jobs mantra for the coming state election?; Kow-toeing to big business? ; A map pin-prick in time – essentially a blind pin the tail on the donkey?

    Where is the research data to show this far N/W Tas area is at all appropriate for Salmon Farming?

  14. TGC

    August 25, 2017 at 12:44 am

    #34 Classic ‘butism’

  15. Geoffrey Swan

    August 24, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    #33 You are trying too hard to be clever Trevor and it is simply not working for you.

    Nowhere did I make a “but” comment. At #29 you inserted a “but”. At #30 I inserted an “and”. Prove me wrong if you have nothing better to offer.

    I do not suffer fools – and I am rapidly losing patience with your petty postings. I am not anti Salmon Farming per se. My years of research, interest and involvement with this topic (farmed Salmon farming) allows me to make my informed and substantiated comments. We must respect the environment and the other users of our waterways; and we must find better and more intelligent solutions to intensive aquaculture than have been employed world wide, and in Tasmania, to date.

  16. TGC

    August 24, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    “pleased my message has got through.” Oh it has #30 oh it has- spot a “but…” person every time.
    What’s the line? …”but me no buts…”

  17. Robin Charles Halton

    August 24, 2017 at 11:09 am

    As demand outstrips supply, offshore salmon farming will expand in Tasmania.

    The industry provides certainty for jobs and growth in Circular Head as the dairy industry in the region takes a hit, it to will recover but will always be subject to aggressive take overs and commercial challenges between Murray Goulburn and Fonterra in both Tasmania and Victoria making it much harder for dairy farmers to make an further investment or even remain in dairy, which is a pity as the NW coast should be thriving on its dairying capacity too.

    More recently the future of Cadbury at Claremont is becoming increasing under the spotlight as the Tasmanian operation could eventually cease or be downgraded in the near future.

    There is an opportunity now for those caught up in the dairying debarkle as better opportunities would be available with aquaculture.

    There is no stopping as the industry gets smarter in its operational capacity to avoid overstocking and properly address environmental concerns, hence the dispersed nature of fish farming plan for Circular Head.

  18. Clive Stott

    August 24, 2017 at 5:19 am

  19. Geoffrey Swan

    August 24, 2017 at 1:25 am

    #29 Cryptic Trevor… but I think you have finally got it in one…and I repeat “I do not suffer fools” and “I am not anti Salmon Farming”.. pleased my message has got through.

  20. TGC

    August 24, 2017 at 12:14 am

    #27 “I do not suffer fools”–but at #28 “I am not anti Salmon Farming.”-

  21. Geoffrey Swan

    August 23, 2017 at 11:31 pm

    #26 Matthew.. I am humbled by your comments. Unfortunately I am not an insider who has chosen to be a whistle blower (we need a few of these)… I am merely a very interested citizen of this planet who has researched Salmon Farming and I have been asking questions for some years now. There are others who are far more informed but perhaps reticent to come forward through fear of retribution. (I have had my fair share of personal attack already.. however I will continue to speak out)

    My very personal experience over the past 9+ years is with the Huon Aquaculture Company – who today posted a 500% increase in their after tax profit year on year of almost $29 million. HAC, Frances and Peter Bender refuse to spend the estimated $1 million to upgrade their antiquated and no longer best practice flow through fish farm (hatchery) into a fully enclosed recirculating system down here in Lonnavale. Since 2007 they have been polluting the once pristine Russell River with a daily discharge of 26 million litres of fish farm sewerage causing catastrophic down stream eutrophication and destroying what was once a renowned freshwater river enjoyed by Trout fishers and locals… sadly.. no longer.

    I will be very honoured to contact you via TT Editor Lindsay Tuffin.. and pleased to offer whatever knowledge and support to assist you in your plight.

    I wish to point out I am not anti Salmon Farming.. I am simply wanting this industry to respect the environment, respect other users of our waters and to be truly sustainable in practice and to stop the public relations mantra of jobs, jobs, jobs.

    And to stop the greed and perhaps most of all to leave a pristine legacy for our children.

  22. Geoffrey Swan

    August 23, 2017 at 9:33 pm

    #25 “…how we patted them …”

    So who is being a silly little school boy now Mr Trevor G Cowell of Main Street Perth (TGC).

    Just as I value what I consume I also place a value on my time and my intellect. I do not suffer fools and I generally enjoy Tasmanian Times for the mostly intelligent discourse.

    I support the intent of this post about the ongoing concerns and issue of intensive and the rapidly expanding Farmed Salmon industry – and my apologies to the author for any part I have played in degrading this serious story into a ludicrous folly.

  23. Matthew Morgan

    August 23, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    Thank you all for your comments. Especially Geoffrey Swan, I see that you have experiences with Salmon farms … can you tell us more?

    Until Petuna or any other salmon farm, gives an undertaking that their farming practices
    are ecologically sound and healthy for consumption
    are not going to Kill the juvenile fish nursery
    are not going steal the native fish fishing grounds from the professional and recreational fishermen
    I remain opposed to the proposed salmon farms in N/W Tasmania.

    I’m out at sea ATM, near the triangle of proposed fish farms, but still I see the next wave in truth coming …

    Matthew Morgan

    Ps Geoffrey Swan – I’d really appreciate hearing more of your salmon farm experiences. You can contact me through my secretary, TT has the details.

  24. TGC

    August 23, 2017 at 8:27 pm

    #23 “…how we patted them …” -is that significant?- are there special ways to ‘pat’ a pig that will contribute to producing “the best pork…ever tasted”
    Do you use both hands in a special patern? time of day important? do ‘unpatted’ pigs produce inferior quality pork?
    Clearly there’s a whole field of research involved in this and anyone who tackles it as a subject would gain a PhD

  25. Geoffrey Swan

    August 23, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    Especially for TGC and anyone else interested in what we eat…

    http://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/worldtoday/humane-meat-the-latest-food-trend/8820578

  26. Geoffrey Swan

    August 23, 2017 at 1:50 pm

    #22 “The very tiniest minority of all the foods produced in Australia may be ‘sus’- the vast majority can be consumed in absolute confidence that it will do us more good than any harm-”

    Don’t disagree TGC.. BUT.. even if you are one of those folk who has no interest in what is shoved into your gob and have no interest in provenance (I can assure you that former customers of our free range pork were very interested in the back story, what we fed them, how we patted them and so on… and in return we received feedback saying it was the best pork they had ever tasted)… then at the very least I would hope to think you would have no interest in eating “sick or diseased” protein. (It is why meat inspectors first and foremost inspect the livers.)

    In this story that protein is Farmed Salmon. Salmon that may be deaf, are stressed, are sick and are producing large amounts of stress hormones.. why in the world would you choose to knowingly eat sick protein.

    In the event you have not bothered to read any of research… it has shown that deafness is occurring in Farmed Salmon because of their extremely fast growth rate. And why are farmed salmon being grown so quickly?.. back to the almighty dollar. The same reason Huon Valley apple farmers are now planting apple trees very very close together in order to increase the yield per hectare… a process that can only continue for so long before something breaks.

    Truly sustainable Salmon farming is what we need in Tasmania – we have an opportunity to lead the world by leveraging of our clean green brand image.

    Environmental impacts and human health must be more important than shareholder returns….and then you are dead.

  27. TGC

    August 23, 2017 at 12:44 am

    #21 “We enthusiastically use our Esse wood fired stove 24/7 to cook, heat our water and a small hydronic heating panel on the wall of our 3.5m square lounge room. Esse burns with around 98% efficiency in terms of particulates, smoke and ash.” Yes, they are a great unit!
    Now- “It is what we don’t know that should be of concern..”- Why? The implication seems to be that it is important to know everything about what we eat and drink- if that is intended-it’s ridiculous.
    An overwhelming number of people generally have one question in mind as they look to make a purchase ‘Emma Chisit’. We are ‘told’ an increasing number of consumers want to drill down further and must know provenance, travel kilometres, integrity in production- now what does that mean?- and is it available in a range of colours?
    Thee are more kilometres of tricky speech about our food than can be good for us- and exaggerated claims for ‘top class’ produce become
    a bit tiresome.
    The very tiniest minority of all the foods produced in Australia may be ‘sus’- the vast majority can be consumed in absolute confidence that it will do us more good than any harm-

  28. Geoffrey Swan

    August 22, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    #19 Greetings Martin.. not quite sure what you are on about here.. but this science based article is an interesting read about Salmon deafness.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/srep25249

    #20 You are so predictable Trevor.. I knew the moment I mentioned firewood it would be on. We enthusiastically use our Esse wood fired stove 24/7 to cook, heat our water and a small hydronic heating panel on the wall of our 3.5m square lounge room. Esse burns with around 98% efficiency in terms of particulates, smoke and ash.

    Health benefits?? .. I refer you back to #13 and if you really do your research you will discover much more about farmed versus wild salmon.

    Not sure you will find any deaths attributed to diseased potatoes either… or to anything we consume for that matter apart from mushrooms. It is what we don’t know that should be of concern.. so I choose not to eat farmed Salmon as I place a value on my body.

    Back to topic – we need more people like Mathew Morgan to speak from the heart and to tell it like it really is. We must be more cautious about this exponential growth at any cost. And we must stop the greed.

  29. TGC

    August 22, 2017 at 1:38 pm

    #18 “Pushing a wheelbarrow load of firewood up a wooden ramp…”
    Firewood- open fire? heater? firewood sourced from…where?
    and “Back to topic” I have done a very trivial Search but can’t locate any records of deaths serious illnesses due directly to eating farmed salmon.
    On the other hand there are many Sites suggesting the health benefits of eating salmon-or other fish.
    Perhaps critics of salmon farming are like the ‘salmon’ -deaf to facts!

  30. Mjf

    August 22, 2017 at 11:03 am

    #18
    Shouldn’t that be stressed, hormone laden and deaf farmed salmon ? Or does the stressed condition include deafness by association ?

  31. Geoffrey Swan

    August 22, 2017 at 1:33 am

    #17 Very sweet of you Trevor.. and we have not as yet met one another…

    Pushing a wheelbarrow load of firewood up a wooden ramp – slippery due to all the rainfall and ice in this neck of the woods.

    Nothing at all wrong with my protein intake or my diet for that matter (I did mention I have livestock so do understand I have no issue with nose to tail eating and I do practice paddock to plate where possible) … and there are always tablets for anxiety.. thanks for asking.

    Back to the topic.. would you like (Roundup) fries with your next serve of stressed hormone laden farmed Salmon?

  32. TGC

    August 22, 2017 at 12:25 am

    #15 Sorry about the cracked ribs- hope you soon recover- was the fall due to being generally unsteady on your feet- if so- check your diet- you may need more protein.- or less anxiety.

  33. Marcus Higgs

    August 21, 2017 at 11:03 pm

    Under the Liberals just publicised plan for the next election to build our Tasmania future is the Continuing Target to double the annual value of our salmon industry to $1billion by 2030 (no mention of potential environmental impacts!).
    Unfortunately, ever since Tasmania was settled in the 1800s, natural resources – forests, minerals, and fish – have been over-committed to industry before adequate environmental impacts were fully understood. Repeated struggles by scientists to convince successive governments to reduce allocations, in the interest of protecting the environment, generally have been subjected to protracted delays and reductions the rate of reducing allocations because of industry lobbying pressures on the government of the day. I support you Matthew is your attempts to raise the profile of this debate and wish you success in your efforts.

  34. Geoffrey Swan

    August 21, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    #12 Always on the attack TGC.

    I am not whinging; merely keeping interested TT readers informed in my ongoing quest for truth and transparency… (and justice).

    Eating a sick animal is very different from diseased potatoes (they would not get through the quarantine system anyway.. and you know that). A deaf farmed fish is stressed. A deaf farmed fish is sick. This information has been known about since the 1960’s and in an article somewhat hidden away in the Mercury on Friday it was reported Frances Bender said her company was monitoring research in the area of animal welfare “with interest”… what does that actually mean?

    I have farmed livestock. I have been involved in the abattoir process. Sick animals do NOT enter the food chain. A sick animal is stressed; stress releases Cortisol, Norepinephrine and Adrenalin and we really do not want these stress hormones in our food chain… unless of course if you don’t give a toss what goes into your gob.

    And perhaps I differ from you Trevor… but I am also interested in my potatoes which is why we mostly grow our own.. I have no interest in the all to common practice in Tasmania of using Roundup before planting and Roundup again to kill of the foliage before mechanical harvesting takes place.

    I did have a fall last week and I am attending to some cracked ribs.. didn’t kill me this time round.. so still alive and kicking (carefully) for now!

  35. Chris

    August 21, 2017 at 1:15 pm

    The fish are deaf, so they cannot hear their Hormones force fed into them at every turn, that along with dyes to make them attractive to gullible buyers shows an industry that is displaying best practice.

    A relative has just bought a spaniel pup, which had great difficulty eating and retaining food along with continual humping.

    The vet pinpointed the problem “its the chicken (fresh cooked) full of antibiotics and hormones and its in tinned pet food too.
    What chance have we got again with fresh salmon down ,down, down= boycott.

  36. Jim Murray

    August 21, 2017 at 11:19 am

    The salmon industry should concentrate on improving their product in the water they already have rather than aim for bulk commodity production and leave Tasmanian pristine costal waters alone!!

    Tasmanian salmon is far from a premium product as the industry and Tasmanian government like to claim, it is cheap alternative to wild caught fish and I place it in the category of Bassa and Nile Perch. You just have to compare the quantity of Omega 3 fatty acids in Tas farmed salmon compared to Alaskan wild caught salmon. Tas farmed salmon has 1.2g of omega 3 fatty acids per 100g compared to 2.2g in wild caught Alaskan salmon, nearly double!!!!

    I guess that is what you get when you feed the stock on shit and aim for a cheap bulk product rather than a premium one.

  37. TGC

    August 21, 2017 at 12:31 am

    #10 There are a great many diseases which can and do threaten the potato-growing industry- how many folk buying their fish and chips inquire- ‘where do your potatoes come from and can you assure me they are disease free”
    “The fall’ll probably kill yer…”!
    Tasmanian salmon – however it arrives on your plate- is a high class fish- and bloody good for you-so give the whinging a rest!

  38. Tassie - the Salmon State

    August 21, 2017 at 12:08 am

    Are there assessments under way of the marine environment in the planned new farming areas, so before-and-after impacts can be examined?

    Was it done in Macquarie Harbour?

    Did they do it for the Huon River and estuary?

    You can’t manage much if you don’t know what was there in the first place.

  39. Geoffrey Swan

    August 20, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    #6 That may be so Trevor… but are they aware that up to 50% of farmed Salmon are deaf and this now raises serious issues for animal welfare… did you want fries with that, TGC?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-17/aquaculture-practices-send-farmed-salmon-deaf-study-shows/8815230

    Deafness in farmed salmon linked to accelerated growth

    Half of the world’s farmed salmon are part deaf due to accelerated growth rates in aquaculture, new research has found. The research was led by the University of Melbourne and is published in the Journal of Experimental Biology.

    Last year the team showed that loss of hearing in farmed fish is caused by an inner ear deformity, and they have now linked that deformity to the fish’s fast growth rate.

    Otoliths are tiny crystals in a fish’s inner ear which detect sound, much like the ear bones in humans, so even a small change can cause massive hearing problems. The deformation was first recorded in the 1960s, but this team was the first to show that it affects more than 95 per cent of fully-grown hatchery-produced fish globally.
    Study co-author, Dr Tim Dempster, says that the deformity is irreversible, and its effects only get worse with age.

    “These results raise serious questions about the welfare of farmed fish. In many countries, farming practices must allow for the ‘Five Freedoms’, which are freedom from hunger or thirst; freedom from discomfort; freedom from pain, injury or disease; freedom to express (most) normal behaviour; and freedom from fear and distress,” says Dr Dempster from the University of Melbourne.

    “Producing animals with deformities violates two of these freedoms: the freedom from disease, and the freedom to express normal behaviour. But fish farms are very noisy environments, so some hearing loss may reduce stress in hatcheries and sea cages. We still don’t know what this level of hearing loss means for production.”.

  40. Robert LePage

    August 20, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    When “they” trot out the “Worlds best practise” propaganda line, it just shows how bad the world is in it’s practices.

  41. Bart Roberts

    August 20, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    #6 that’s the only FACT that has been cited in the first six posts.

  42. Bart Roberts

    August 20, 2017 at 8:45 pm

    So the anti-salmon farming lobby cites dubious “scientific” arguments again. The original post says that “our crayfish spent time there as phyllosoma.” Actually, the phyllosoma stage of the Southern Rock Lobster life-cycle is a free-swimming deep oceanic stage. Perhaps he is confused with the puerulus settlement stage? And even if he is, can he please cite the scientific evidence proving a causal link between salmon farming and rock lobster population decline. That’s assuming that there even is a currently unexplained rock lobster population decline.

    And as for spending many hours researching global salmon farming practices, I presume you mean spending many hours googling stuff on the internet. As Doctor Karl so aptly says it, “the internet is like the bloke you met down the pub.” Post the peer-reviewed scientific literature here and we might get somewhere. While we’re waiting for that you can all read this one. “Regional impact from fin-fish farming in an intensive production area (Hardangerfjord, Norway” available here http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17451000.2013.810754

    #3 seems to associate historically poor regulated scallop dredging with current salmon farming practices. And your point is?

    #4 seems to be confusing salmon farming in Tasmania with some rubbish they’ve probably read published by cranks such as Alexandra Morton in Canada. Repeat after me, we don’t have major diseases such as ISA in Tasmania, we don’t have sea lice in Tasmania, we don’t have native salmon (salmonids) in Tasmania.

  43. TGC

    August 20, 2017 at 7:56 pm

    It’s a well known fact that thousands of Tasmanians are enjoying eating salmon – much to the chagrin of anti-salmon practitioners.

  44. Studler van Surck

    August 20, 2017 at 7:56 pm

    Agree with #1 #2 #3 and #4. But just how much worse is Okehampton Bay then?
    NW coast is talking 100 cages in 1000ha. Okehampton will have 28 cages in one warm unflushed bay in a total lease of just 80ha. Utter madness!

  45. Bill Mathisen

    August 20, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    Farming Frankenfish in open waters, is a disaster looking for a place to happen. These farmed fish have all sorts of diseases, and attract sea lice, which will infect native salmon runs.
    Escapement is also a dangerous problem, should they make it the spawning grounds, of the native species, the chances of total destruction of local salmon, is far higher than the operators of the these so-called farms, will ever admit to.
    “Friends Don’t Let Friends Eat Farmed Fish” Eat Only Locally Caught Wild Fish and Support Your Fishermen….

  46. Prof Joan

    August 20, 2017 at 2:39 pm

    World’s best practice, my sweet arse! We split scallops way back when scallops were dredged. The beds were destroyed. We won’t be buying salmon anymore and we won’t buy fish at Petuna’s.

  47. Alison Bleaney

    August 20, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    Agree with the article and #1
    Thank you Matthew.
    Moronic decision making at its worst in light of all that is known about the area concerned and the proposal.
    I’ll sign a petition Matthew when you post it !

  48. Ted Mead

    August 20, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    You have to admit at least the Libs are consistent on all fronts!

    When times are desperate then pull out the old monotonous oxymoron ‘World’s Best Practice’.

    Nothing is more further from the truth, but the gullible continue to swallow it hook, line and sinker!

    The average voter isn’t interested in environmental management and ecological sustainability. The reason why governments get broad support for such industries is because they preach the ‘jobs’ mantra over and over again! And the politicians know that in electorates like Braddon that’s a sure winner!

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