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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

Economy

The out-of-touch elite …

Says it all …

THE SATURDAY PAPER …

How GetUp! boosted Labor … The GetUp! campaign was something unprecedented. It was by far the biggest, best-organised campaign run by an organisation not directly affiliated with a party. The organisation’s national director, Paul Oosting, quantifies the effort: “In total, our people had 40,218 phone conversations – not just calls, but conversations – with voters in marginal seats, lasting anywhere from five to 30 minutes. Total calling time was the 17,471 volunteer hours. That’s almost two years of donated time from our members.” The organisation concentrated its efforts on 12 seats: Bass, Dickson, Dawson, Macquarie, Macarthur, Deakin, Mayo, Cowper, Page, Braddon, Grey, Gilmore and, to a lesser extent, New England. In almost all cases, the swings against the government were far higher than the national average. The government lost Bass, Braddon, Macarthur, Macquarie and Mayo. …

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17 Comments

17 Comments

  1. Leonard Colquhoun

    July 15, 2016 at 3:46 pm

    Comment 16’s question – “why did they fail to nominate this year?” – is a vital one, and one not just for “decent people”, however defined.

    Merely whingeing about eh quality of major party candidates is just more of Eliza Doolittle’s “Words! Words! Words!” which she was “so sick of”. Her follow-up question is one for citizens in the prime of their lives: “Is that all you blighters can do?”

    (Yes, it does look like a dodge, a side-step, doesn’t it.)

  2. TGC

    July 15, 2016 at 12:40 pm

    #15 “Now to finding some decent people to put into parliament instead.”
    Do you have “some decent people” in mind? and have they agreed? More importantly- why did they fail to nominate this year? Maybe next time or the one after that? or…never? Maybe they are not as “decent”- in terms of public service- as you believe.

  3. Simon Warriner

    July 13, 2016 at 11:41 am

    re 14, saw that and had the same response. If that’s what their replacement stock behave like, I think we a pretty safe.

    Now to finding some decent people to put into parliament instead.

  4. Observer

    July 13, 2016 at 2:48 am

  5. TGC

    July 11, 2016 at 12:05 am

    #12 Cutting! The sort of response a troll might make.

  6. Robert LePage

    July 10, 2016 at 7:14 pm

    11#

    two things;

    1 Utracrepidarian

    2 Dunning–Kruger effect

  7. TGC

    July 10, 2016 at 5:18 pm

    #10 has panicked! “Act to reduce CO2 emissions by for example stopping new coal mines…”
    Because it would be difficult to believe that not opening new coal mines will reduce existing CO2 emissions anymore than building wind and solar generation.
    And if global warming is “unstoppable” then let’s just accept it and figure out how to live with it.

  8. Robert LePage

    July 10, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    9#

    (why 3?)
    That is the normal length of a parliament

    and how is it proposed to go about doing it
    Act to reduce CO2 emissions by for example stopping new coal mines and introducing more renewable energy.

    and who must do it?
    I would say the government.

    And if it is not done in those three years- what happens in year 4?
    We will be that much further down the track of unstoppable global warming through positive feedback.

    Here endeth the last lesson I will give you. I do not take kindly to trolls.

  9. TGC

    July 10, 2016 at 12:21 am

    #8 But what is it that must be done within the next three years (why 3?)and how is it proposed to go about doing it and who must do it? And if it is not done in those three years- what happens in year 4?

  10. Robert LePage

    July 9, 2016 at 8:47 pm

    No 7
    From what I have read of your posts I am wasting my time responding to you but I have time to waste at the moment so:
    We are fast running out of time to do anything. This was possibly the last chance to do anything and in another 3 years it will probably be too late.
    Please do not waste my time by posting about AGW being a big con or all the other things that deniers dream up to placate their consciences.

  11. TGC

    July 9, 2016 at 8:04 pm

    #6 “The 2016 election should have been the most important election ever in Australia.”
    That’s a pretty big call- Reasons?

  12. Robert LePage

    July 9, 2016 at 3:43 pm

    The 2016 election should have been the most important election ever in Australia.
    Instead it degenerated into the usual hotchpotch of lies, hand outs and quibbling about ridiculously unimportant things.
    Anything went in the scramble to achieve power and none of the promises will be honoured by either side.
    The most dangerous thing we have to face, global warming, was barely mentioned but same sex marriage got too much debate and is really of no importance.
    The saving grace of all this is that within ten years the effects of global warming will have really kicked in and very extreme weather will be the norm, The way out opinions of politicians will not make any difference and we will be in the start of survival mode.
    Stopping the boats will be impossible by then because of the sheer number of climate refugees so disciples of Abbott will not be able to win elections with this as their core agenda.
    I would advise anyone who has any brains to enjoy what we have now because it is not going to improve.

  13. TGC

    July 9, 2016 at 2:46 pm

    It’s good too note #2 gradually coming round to recognising the better benefits of a Coalition government as against the hopeless lot in Labor/Greens – land.

  14. Leonard Colquhoun

    July 9, 2016 at 1:12 pm

    But, re Comment 2’s claim of the 2013-2016 “government [having] failed to pass a single budget”, isn’t having no majority in the Senate a significant factor? And don’t Coalition oppositions have a record of generally passing sensible legislation in the Senate?

    Granted, however, that in the Abbott / Hockey period, the Coalition seemed oblivious to the fact that it did NOT have the Senate numbers, a lack of tactical nous which made its big House majority almost irrelevant. Its ‘crash-through-or-crash’ style worked as badly as Whitlam’s did 40 years earlier. No point in trying to invade England in summer 1940 without control of both the skies and the waves, even by the self-proclaimed Master Race. Or ‘electing’ to bat first on a greentop to Clive Lloyd’s ferociously fearsome foursome. (Thems were the days.)

    In a Comment somewhere else, I reckoned that ‘cometh-the-hour, cometh-the-man’ keeps on working from one ‘hour’ to the next only if the ‘man’ adapts to that next ‘hour’. Which neither Abbott nor Hockey did. Another Whitlam parallel.

  15. Karl Stevens

    July 9, 2016 at 2:04 am

    I think Pete Credlin was wrong to call Malcolm Turnbull ‘Mr Harborside Mansion’. It should have been ‘Mr Caymans Taxhaven’.
    Cheers
    Karl

  16. phill Parsons

    July 8, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    Here we have a government about to be re-elected that has failed to pass a single budget, has increased the national debt by over $100 billion, has lied about ending the deficit, after saying it wouldn’t has cut services to the many whilst giving to the few and foreign multinationals tax cuts.

    Liars one and all talk about innovation and defund education and provide the new economy with a third rate NBN.

    It’s enough to drive such irresponsibility except they will double down on their thievery.

  17. Leonard Colquhoun

    July 8, 2016 at 6:54 pm

    Congrats! to GetUp! for its “40,218 phone conversations [in] its 17,471 volunteer hours” – an example for every whingeing loser, whining wannabe, and apathetic lazybones to follow.

    And that includes many individuals and entities in the business sector who apparently thought that they should leave all such activities to their designated Party; nor did they seem to reckon they had an obligation to donate to it if they wanted it to represent their interests. It also seems that a Mussolini-style corporatism infects much of the Big End of town, judging by the cosy deals they routinely do with Big Unions, squeezing out on one side small business contractors and small unions on the other. (Remember, anyone, that 1980s 100% BS rubbish call for ‘One Big Union’?)

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