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Sad Postscript to the Clearfelling of Lapoinya Forest. Meanwhile in Mutual Valley …

*Pic: Spot the eagle’s nest …

After 20 months of research, negotiations, protests and pleas by the Lapoinya Community to reserve or buy or remove from harvest a local 49 hectare high conservation value forest from its production zone, Forestry Tasmania, supported by its Tasmanian Government shareholders Paul Harriss and Peter Gutwein, insisted it be clearfelled.

Three months of protests by mums and dads in and around the coupe resulted in 5 arrests, 6 fines and over 100 move-on notice issues by Police who were daily required to shepherd Forestry Tasmania in the disputed Forest.

The protests were heard round the world and echoed all the way to the High Court of Australia where a challenge to the constitutionality of the Liberal Governments’ Anti-Protester laws will be heard. The only echo that was heard in Lapoinya was the sound of chainsaws.

Forestry Tasmania has completed its mission to clearfell the Forest, undisputed home to rare, endangered and threatened plant and animal species such as Brooker gums, devils, quolls, goshawks, eagles and the world’s largest freshwater crustacean, the Giant Freshwater Crayfish.

Remarkably, Forestry Tasmania has recently been instructed to conclude as quickly as possible its operations in the Coupe by the Forest Practices Authority, the body charged to ensure compliance with the Forestry Code of Practice.

The holy grail of habitat conservation, a current Wedge Tailed Eagle nest was reported just metres from the clearfell line in the coupe. The bones of prey are littered at its base as are the bones of the clearfelled forest around it.

The exclusion zone for an Eagle nest is one kilometre in diameter. A five metre fire break has been dozed within 20 metres of the nest. To add insult to injury, it is Forestry Tasmania’s apparent intention to burn within metres of the nest.

The insistence in clearfelling of Lapoinya against strong and documented objection messaged to the international Forest Stewardship Council auditors that Forestry Tasmania was unable to comply with their world standard practices especially in the following areas as reported by the FSC auditors in the middle of last year:

CAR 2014.8:
Forestry Tasmania (FT) must modify and enhance coupe-level environmental planning, assessment and monitoring procedures so that rare, threatened ,endangered (RTE) species, particularly wide-ranging landscape species, and other high conservation values (HCV) are being consistently identified and appropriately protected

Principle #8: Monitoring and assessment. Page 117
Monitoring shall be conducted — appropriate to the scale and intensity of forest management — to assess the condition of the forest, yields of forest products, chain of custody, management activities and their social and environmental impacts.

CAR 2014.1:
Consultation must also seek expert and stakeholder input on the results (i.e., identified locations and attributes) of applying FT’s HCV approach. Results of this consultation and resulting changes to FT’s HCV Forest approach must be documented.

In the sad case of the Lapoinya, Forestry Tasmania has knowingly failed in their stewardship of our forests and failed international accreditation for our products.

SHAME!

• Lynn Jensen-Schnapper in Comments: It is with great sadness that we read today of your report Stewart of the destruction of Lapoinya. Upon returning to Germany this week, a Tasmanian Fan from Tübingen who visited our precious NW Tassie last year, could not understand the criminal acts of environmental destruction that these politicians have condoned. I explained to her that it’s basically a dictatorship of money and greed and the tourists just shake their heads at this ignorance …

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Mutual valley … before the clearfell … The coupe is on the right …
• Peter Coxhead MR in Comments: The Forest Practices Authority (FPA) is found wanting while at the same time Forestry Tasmania (FT) push on with logging CC104B in Derby despite a clear breach of regulations, local residents said today. At a meeting with Mutual Valley residents last week Forestry Tasmania was presented with a case in coupe CC104B that showed unequivocally that the harvesting happening was in breach of the Forest Practices Code due to inadequate emergency access. FT has started harvesting in this coupe knowing full well that the emergency access route has not been built and maintained to the standards required in the code code, said local resident of 30 years Peter Coxhead …

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49 Comments

49 Comments

  1. William Boeder

    May 6, 2016 at 5:50 pm

    #48. Robin thank you for reply however you have addressed only one specie of the full spectrum of Tasmanian wildlife, I am unable to accept the denying attitude that has prevailed over the past given period of 20 years.

    It would seem to me that the only alteration to the FPP field report tick-sheet is to the matter of Eagles to the exclusion of every other form of wildlife.

    A colleague of your industry over on the mainland, a Mr Mark Poynter at one stage sought to publish my habit of sending him regular reports on the rapid decline of the Victorian State faunal emblem by loggers, the Leadbeaters’s Possum, as a form of harassment.

    This wrongly chosen word of harassment had consisted of my increasing concerns that people in his line of work were responsible for the sheer uncaring ways of the loggers in that State.

    His plea for some sort of sympathetic respite from this so-called harassment by myself was, in my opinion, a cowards way of seeking to blacken the name of another for the carriage of his own misdemeanours.

    I find that your one specie reply could be placed into the same refutation category as that of Poynter.

    For goodness sake Robin we speak the same language so how can there be such reply by you that refers to one species alone.

    For some oddball reason Forestry Tasmania would not comment on the demise of this State’s faunal emblem the Tasmanian devil.

    This reply of yours has you act in the same manner as Poynter, a complete denial to the existence of every other wildlife specie that dwells in the State’s Centuries old undisturbed Crown Land forests.

    Surely there is no need for me to go into further intricate detail to explain the totality of the State-wide wildlife carnage by loggers that needs me to be more simplistic than in my comment at #47.

    People who are unable to look around them and have some idea of their destructive interventions are not unlike the flat earth thinking people one still finds an occasional believer thereto.

    This denial factor seems to be a wide spread malaise that is held in the minds of almost every full-blooded white Tasmanian resident, especially the party political and GBE appointed resident in Tasmania.

  2. Robin Charles Halton

    May 6, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    #47 William, it does not mean that I support FT’s damn laziness not to carry out better field research during roading and harvest planning.

    Planning FPO “initials” JFF needs to be severely reprimanded by the Biodiversity Conservation Branch of DPIPWE.

    The competence of JFF as an FPO Planning needs to be addressed by the FPA.

    Eagles are an obvious Threatened Species to a larger extent by Hydro Tasmania Wind Farm and blatant shootings.

    There is no excuse why FT/Forest Industry and FPA should still be lagging behind identifying with Eagle habitat, as there is an incredible amount of information available as research and references.

    My ongoing support for forestry may not continue as strongly given that WPZ regrowth coupes are being sacrificed for peelers by not given an extra 20-30 years to reach their fuller potential for local high quality sawlog production.

  3. William Boeder.

    May 3, 2016 at 3:18 pm

    All well and good Robin, how about the past 20 years of ignorant attitude that had prevailed during this said 20 or so years.
    This State government logging free-for-all was temporarily halted when Bob Brown won his case that the agency of Forestry Tasmania were to be responsible and have a duty of care toward the wildlife in this State.
    Then the toxic mix of John ‘Fibber’ Howard and Thuggo was to see this legal matter overturned for all time simply by altering a few strategic words in the relevant legal clause that exemplified this duty of care.
    Following on from this plotted alteration to the laws of the land we now see this State government logging arm ignore any at all concerns to destroying wildlife habitats and all forms of wildlife extant in this State.
    How very FPP convenient it was to see this Federal Liberal government toady up to the desecrators of Tasmania’s Forests.
    Now Robin tell me how your ex-employer deals with their present ever endangering harms toward the World’s largest freshwater crustacean?
    In my view it now appears that any living thing that cannot be wood-chipped, veneer-peeled, or burnt to death is not worthy of being preserved for our futures by this State government.
    How in all creation could this State cultivate such a heartless conniving group of political flunkies as now pretend to serve the interests of the people?
    Let you not forget that these same gadabout flunks create new laws to further infringe on the freedoms of its State citizens.
    Somewhere among it all is a certain loathed extreme right leaning State Senator that sides with the devil or some other hellion creature, that has had a great deal of responsibility for the transgressions dumped upon Tasmania’s citizens also the State’s unique wildlife species.
    Just this one particular person can be fingered for being the most despicable anti-the-State conniving religious-ranting blow-hard and despot.
    Guess who?
    No it is not the Sherriff of Nottingham, it is somebody proven to be even more crooked and despicable.

  4. Robin Charles Halton

    May 3, 2016 at 3:35 am

    Technically FT have NOT breached FPP JFF 0029-01 for Flowerdale coupe 053A dated 8-12-2015 consented to by the landowners representative Craig Butt.

    Note D Conservation and other values
    Biodiversity
    Prescriptions for Wedge tailed eagles

    . No nest sites were identified during seachs as a part of the planning process.
    However, contractors are to notify the FPA Zoologist via the Murchison District eagle coordinator if any nests are found during the operation.

    . If a nest is discovered during the breeding season ( August- February) inclusive, immediately cease all forestry activity within 500 meters of the nest or within 1 Km line of sight of the nest.

    . If a nest is discovered outside the breeding season ( March-June) inclusive then cease all operations within 500 meters of the nest sight.

    To the best of my knowledge FT carried out those procedures according to the Prescriptions outlined in the FPP therefore there is no breach of the Forest Practices Code.

  5. Karl Stevens

    May 2, 2016 at 1:15 pm

    FSC are starting to realise that ‘ash bed’ forestry is only an invention of the same imperialist empire that obliterated the Tasmanian Aboriginals for economic reasons.
    How could the Forestry Commission have determined that eucalyptus rotations could be reduced to below 90 years when the Forestry Commission had not been going for 90 years itself?
    Australian Forestry is not connected to any form of rational thought. It’s about the select few feathering their own nests, but take a look at the size of some of their nests on google maps?
    Why has an ex-CEO of Forestry Tasmania chosen to live on an estate devoid of trees?

  6. Jack lumber

    May 2, 2016 at 10:15 am

    Re 40 thank You John
    It was never the role of any party other than FSC and its accredited auditors to review performance against a standard for the purposes of certification and that is the way it should remain . Some self appointed know all or quardians appear not to be aware of this .

    Others can determine what You are in the the above statement . Hint a know it all can never be wrong nor acknowledge a point of view .pwhich is contrary to their own .

    You Asked a question and it was answered .
    Thank You for confirming much about You .

  7. Robin Charles Halton

    May 1, 2016 at 4:12 am

    #40 John Powell now that I have confirmed that the eagle nest sighting by either a harvesting or fireline construction contractor 20 metres outside the edge of the harvested coupe is not a hoax instigated by FLAG then I can respond with a level of support for continuous improvments towards Eagle Management for which I thought was already firmly in place by FT prior to their FFP preparation.

    In my opinion this is a sorry state of affairs that the unoccupied eagle nest, no matter how old it is, was not reported as a part of the FPP process by FT or was ever found to exist by the devoted local FLAG group who I assumed knew the bush around their own locality like the “back of their hand”.

    As I and others you mention we have no direct involvement in this incident it would be normal practice to report to Threatened Species section, Biodiversity Conservation Branch, DPIPWE Tel. 03 61654340, FAX 03 62333477.

    Now that I have read the ABC news article 29-4-2016 and Advocate newspaper article 28-4 -2016 that confirms the incident is true as I have learnt by experience dealing with Green aligned groups can be misleading until one properly investigates these reports.

    From recent reports I understand FT will burn the harvested area by hand to reestablish forest cover, does anyone know if this has been carried out yet as the late autumn conditions for regen burning will soon be at a close due to rain and shorter daylight hours.

  8. Pat Caplice

    April 30, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    Thanks Peter Murphy for the New Internationalist tip.
    http://newint.org/features/2016/04/01/sustainable-forestry/

    The article provides a reference for California-based SCS Global Services. Favourable for a non conforming logging operation, not so good for supporters of sustainable forestry. No wonder FT chose them.

    “In December 2015, FSC suspended Brazil’s largest certified forestry operation, Jari Florestal. Since 2004 the company’s 715,000 hectares had been certified by the California-based SCS Global Services.”

    “FSC’s certifying companies were generous in giving the lumber companies the benefit of the doubt. In Brazil, SCS failed to uncover what appears to be large-scale fraud and illegal timber laundering.”

    “Perhaps we shouldn’t be too surprised. With certifying companies paid directly by logging companies, there are strong incentives to issue the certificate and hope for the best.”
    Pat

  9. William Boeder

    April 30, 2016 at 3:16 am

    #40. John Powell you raise an interesting situation in the matter of the arbitration over and above the many contentious issues that largely remain a constant as a result of the State government engagement in the clear-felling of the Tasmanian Crown Land forests coupes that are selected or recommended for imminent clear-fell destruction.
    The names you have included with your comment are the names of individuals who assume that they must be possessed with the legislative and or the magisterial power to ascertain what is right and what is wrong in consequence of the indefensible State-wide logging operations.
    (Even more-so when the end recipient of the mass of these logged products are known internationally as the Asian Timber Mafia.)
    It will be an interesting exercise to engage in the reading of the Tasmanian Constitution that may argue against this State-wide larceny of the Tasmanian people’s Crown Land Forests being carried out against the will of the people of Tasmania.
    There is indeed a great deal of ignorance held in heads of this State’s government ministers that shows an absence of fair and reasonable legal process in our State of Tasmania.
    An example of this is in the fact that Tasmania’s Justice Department chose to accept the plea of Bryan the ‘giggler’ Green in his 2nd appearance before this State’s Supreme Court ‘of ignorance to the law is no excuse’ which was in fact ‘the gigglers’ then excuse.
    Just how all of a sudden this false notion was held affectionably within the bosom of this State’s then Supreme Court Judiciary, still has me locked into a mindset of just how woefully irresponsible this State’s Department of Justice has proven its self to be.
    We read on this forum of the ‘drunken sailor like camaraderie’ held by the above-named that now form themselves up as the arbiters and decision-makers when contentious matters arise, such as the compliances and the non-compliances that we are to believe are being rigidly attended to unfortunately, are not, not at all.
    One easily remembers the sinister actions that had erupted from within this State’s next to nil-regulated non-profit broad scale logging activities as were gamely consented to by this States toad-like government ministers, particularly toward those recent infamies under the poisoning hand of both Paul Harriss and Bryan ‘the giggler’ Green as were Tasmania’s recent past State logging ministers.
    Persons such as those in the above who have participated in this the most careless and irresponsible method and manner of denuding great swathes of our former majestic Native Forests, then replete with their native creatures who were once considered held safe in their former habitats, are now more likely the skeleton dead of so many of our native wild-life populations, as guided by those without qualification to decide the right from wrong ethics when the entire occupation of each of these persons had been given over to the destructive clear-fell activities and all the slaughters and the negative after effects thereto.
    No judge at all would serve the people far the better than the above referred to persons.

  10. john powell

    April 29, 2016 at 1:10 am

    Jack Lumber I suspect given SCS Global Services and FSC Australia have all the latest information relating to potential breaches at Lapoinya they now will be the judges of the realism of the FLAG concerns re FPA/FT adherence to FPC regulations, not Graham Wilkinson, not Mark Poynter, not Martin Fitch, not RCH, not Evan Rolley and certainly not YOU.

  11. Karl Stevens

    April 28, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    Robin Charles Halton 38.Then we divide our losses by 70 to find out how far backwards we went per annum over the present rotation.

    At least Hamed Sepawi made folding out of it and that’s all that matters to Neanderthal Tasmania?

  12. Robin Charles Halton

    April 28, 2016 at 4:16 pm

    #30 William, so far I have restrained myself from commenting as I did not want to “inflame” the situation for those who are claiming that WPZ forest is instead imaginary HCV forest.

    #37 Jack as you are a man of extraordinary forestry talent and up to date knowledge, when is the burn up due to take place on the coupe.

    A decent burn should should prove beneficial, given it becoming a bit late in the year one could expect smoke, you bet there will those deflated locals who will suddenly develop an unusual out break of respiratory illness even unheard of during the summer bushfires nearby.

    Intensive burning should cast an end to this pantomime, blackened carbon and ash bed opening up the soils to sunlight is required as the optimum receptacle for successfull aerially dispersed eucalypt seed regeneration.

  13. Jack lumber

    April 28, 2016 at 12:53 pm

    Re 34 Karl it would appear unlike some in prepared to consider change and options

  14. Jack lumber

    April 28, 2016 at 7:47 am

    Re William ….thank you for your combination of social , political and other theories . Pretty sure as a result most if not all readers are now clear on what you think . That said I don’t think you would have any problems managing donations if you formed at political party .

    Sending terry Edwards is a master stroke , not sure on what but a masterful stroke nethertheless

    So back to the claims of FLAG ….have they been substantiated ?
    May many four letter words always follow you .

    Cheers
    Jack .

  15. Claire Gilmour

    April 28, 2016 at 12:22 am

    This was always going to be a problem when the Greens, Wildos etc did their sell out deal … for cookies and coffee … the so-called forest peace deal. It left sooo many behind and vulnerable.

    No private property owners were given a choice of what was to be protected and what was allowed to be trashed. Grrrr!

    #29 I fought for the rights of the used and forgotten, before this Lapoinya coupe was even a twinkle in FT’s useless eye. I paid for and did ALL that on my own for my area!

    And whilst I appreciate what the group has done, I’ve been living on the front line of destruction and fighting FT for nearly 20 years. I know!

    When the massive bush fires come through FT’s so-called regrowth in the trashed Lapoinya coupe area in the next 5- 10 years time, then you will really know what hell is like with FT! Like I do.

    Proving breaches is one of the keys. If you link #32’s MR with the currently proposed gov planning scheme (because it specifically states ’emergency and fire accesses, then Peter Coxhead’s comment is getting down to the wire …

    On the other hand Political machinations will NOT save you … indeed they will hamper you (in regard to saving your own property or indeed life …) As soon as you display – this is a “Greenie” involved/helped thing, the powers that ultimately control are against you … that’s politics!

    Sure be environmentally conscious, but putting your eggs into any one political party is a recipe for disaster.

    Integrity, truth – raw and real ethics, honesty and using FT/gov’s own code against them is what really helps.

    If one is part of a community (which requires help) that has NO political affiliation, then especially in an election year), you potentially have ALL parties vying to help you …!!!

    Pit them all (the parties) against each other … because at the moment it’s – Humanity and environment against greedy party politics – and there is no long term economic benefit to anyone in party politics … it’s a proven dud.

  16. Karl Stevens

    April 27, 2016 at 11:53 pm

    The commenter at 27 says ‘ I will be voting soon and will be reviewing the polices of parties including fiscal and bugetary”.
    Previously, this commenter told TT ‘I have voted Labour since the time I was able to’.
    So which one is it?
    Remember the ‘there are no clonal nurseries in Tasmania’ that had to be so hurriedly retracted?

    Everything is on the record. Every bit of subterfuge, spin and disinformation. There is nowhere to hide in a virtual reality.

    (edited)

  17. Karl Stevens

    April 27, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    Why not hold a ‘Coral Painting Workshop and Outdoor Painted Coral Exhibition’ on the trashed Lapoinya coupe?
    It’s no longer a pop-up workplace so it can be reassigned.
    It would highlight the profound mental retardation of the current freeloaders and foreign agents that impersonate Tasmanian political representatives.
    Let’s use the site?

  18. Peter Coxhead MR posted by Editor

    April 27, 2016 at 2:03 pm

    FPA DITHERS WHILE FT SLATHERS NATIVE FORESTS AT DERBY

    The Forest Practices Authority (FPA) is found wanting while at the same time Forestry Tasmania (FT) push on with logging CC104B in Derby despite a clear breach of regulations, local residents said today

    At a meeting with Mutual Valley residents last week Forestry Tasmania was presented with a case in coupe CC104B that showed unequivocally that the harvesting happening was in breach of the Forest Practices Code due to inadequate emergency access. FT has started harvesting in this coupe knowing full well that the emergency access route has not been built and maintained to the standards required in the code code, said local resident of 30 years Peter Coxhead.

    This is a complete breech of the Forest Practices Code and the FPA the body regulating legal aspects of Tasmanian forestry operations should take note and immediately halt logging.

    This is only one instance of problems residents of the valley claim to have had to deal with in negotiations with FT over CC104B. They claim that there has been a litany of errors and breeches one after the other.

    Mr Coxhead whose domestic water supply originates in the coupe only a few hundred metres up the road said. “We objected to FT using this road for months. At one stage Forestry Tasmania told the FPA that they did not even own or manage the road”.

    “This was either a lie or incompetence from FT” said Mr Coxhead. “When we found out from Crown Land Services that this was totally untrue FT were forced back to the negotiating table” he said.

    “When it was pointed out that this was the Emergency Access route for Ambulances, Fire-trucks and Police vehicles FT tried to claim that it doesn’t matter if it is not up to standard as it won’t be used if nothing unanticipated happens.”

    Mr Coxhead said that no matter how unlikely it might be the Emergency Access route should have been upgraded before work had started in order to cater for any emergency. Meanwhile as the FPA slowly grinds its wheels wondering how to deal with this breech of the Code giant trees are dropped all across the top of the hill. Trees like Hercules a huge monster of a tree which is 11 metres around the base.

    https://www.facebook.com/Save-Mutual-Valley-1723147501231703/

  19. Karl Stevens

    April 27, 2016 at 12:46 pm

    Although another Tasmanian community has lost it’s forest, not one cent in tax will ever be paid to the Australian government as a result of this destruction.

    Ta Ann has never paid tax in Australia and never will. It is a totally parasitic company in Tasmania, and the fact all of it’s billet contracts were written by a mate of the owner makes this another criminal Asian Timber Mafia operation.

    The Asian Timber Mafia can and will be brought down by a coalition of international law enforcement agencies.

    The illegal cash flows are being tracked across the globe continuously by investigators on all continents. Taib and Sepawi are not immortal.

  20. William Boeder

    April 27, 2016 at 8:23 am

    ASs a point of interest Jack could you ask RCH why in ‘Siberia far away from Tasmania, they do not burn their forest timber debris, nor do they waste the time and cost to rake up or bulldoze in to fire lines of the fallen tree debris or even waste time and expense by pushing same into into fire lines, also they have the cheek to remove 2 metre long logs for on-sell when they emerge from the Forests.

    So it seems they don’t care to engage in the wasted time for mounding up debris, then torch it into ashes (including the small new growth indigenous species which are permitted to left grow) to again one day years forward to provide a new regenerated mighty forest log resource.
    So Jack ask Robin Charles Halton to get in touch with Vladimir Putin and explain that their way is not the right way to engage in broad-scale clear-felling, nor to tidy up the waste for future fire fodder.
    Furthermore they do not log their forests to obtain an amount of 94% forest residues to be cheap-gifted to the wealthy owners of bastard wood chip mills in and around Russia.
    I expect RCH will read the riot act to Vladimir and pull him into line like he tries to do as he does toward the Conservation minded people of Tasmania, then go on to claim the most ludicrous statements if these people possess any Greens party origins.

    There are many other European countries that don’t follow the RCH methods right across their forested realms, sorry Robin they are not as gullible as the bogan Neanderthal-like cheer squads you can lean on to support you here in this State.
    How about you send Terry Edwards the great knower of all things forestry in Tasmania, to have him pull Vladimir into line and to join the Tasmanian branch of the CMFEU crackers in this State.

    Were you able to interpret my last above comment to you relative to saving this State’s economy of so much woefully directed or being allocated for profitless return and most likely never to return.
    Regards Jack, friend William.

  21. Fiona White

    April 27, 2016 at 3:13 am

    Regarding one person’s bitter comment – I have personally thanked Stewart and Barbara for their total commitment of time and effort to organise and co-ordinate the protection of the Lapoinya coupe over the past 20 or more months. They and the other Flag members have lobbied politicians, organised and participated in carbon and environmental surveys, had a financial audit of the coupe, conducted a number of public forums, had media interviews and as a final resort, organised respectful, peaceful protests (risking fines or arrest). It has been a tumultuous and stressful time seeing and hearing the demise of this much loved forest now reduced to piles of “waste”, waiting to be burned. No one could do more.

  22. William Boeder

    April 26, 2016 at 11:39 pm

    Jack you disappoint me, I thought you would have had the intelligence to realise that halting the massive State revenue feed Ta Ann would no longer become an impost upon this State’s revenue.

    Unfortunately this further confirms the bogan blood that courses through the Jack Lumber vascular system.
    Only a … would reinforce continuing to do business as usual with Hamed Sepawi of the nearby just overseas Asian Mafia.
    (They currently logging the bejesus out of West Papua)
    The Tasmanian economy suffers severely by the State government continuation of these nice big-pocketed persons being here in Tasmania and are fully complicit to the rape of this small islands forests.
    Perhaps you may need somebody to translate my response into 4 letter words until you truly understand the truth of it all.
    How about you do some research into the present political party donations to the Tasmanian Liberal party and then same toward the former Labor government.

    Regards Jack, you sharp eyed friend William.

  23. Jack lumber miner

    April 26, 2016 at 10:15 pm

    Ah the mantra of the Asian timber mafia .
    No disagreement from me . Said it before and said it again ….what is happens mg in Malaysia is not acceptable .

    So William …… Your economic plan ? I will be voting soon and will be reviewing the polices of parties including fiscal and bugetary.

    William I don’t pick you as a voter and hence why I ask what would you do
    And Hawkins and Hayward ….it would,seem that the claims by the FLAG representative cannot be confirmed . Still at least the performance of the organisation is consistent … Exaggerated and unproven claims .
    The flowedale coupe is WPZ and not HCVF .

  24. Rosalie Woodruff, MR posted by Editor

    April 26, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    Bushfire Inquiry A Whitewash
    Rosalie Woodruff MP | Greens Fire spokesperson
    Wednesday, 27 April 2016
    ________________________________________

    The Bushfire Inquiry findings paint over the devastation of the summer bushfires in the World Heritage Area. It’s as though they never existed.

    Not one single recommendation in the Committee’s report calls to review procedures or respond to climate change. These were two of the key reasons for submitting a dissenting report.*

    Because of the Committee’s membership, it was always going to be a whitewash but the denial around the need to change our response to bushfire management is mind-boggling.

    Forestry Tasmania and the Parks and Wildlife Service did not provide any evidence to the Government-dominated Inquiry. This was despite the fact they’re two of the three agencies most involved in bushfire management in Tasmania.

    The Inquiry was tasked with investigating fire service resources, the funding of fuel reduction programs and governance practices of the Fire Service, but without information from the key players the findings are distorted.

    The report suggests the Committee has investigated the governance, resourcing and funding of our Fire Service, but they actually only looked at a third of it. Parliament should recall the Committee and get them to finish their job properly.

    Climate change means temperatures are rising and lightning strikes are predicted to increase, and we need a government that can deal with it. Tasmanian lives, communities and irreplaceable natural values need to be protected.

    * Inquiry into the State Fire Commission, Dissenting Statement, ABOVE

  25. Cassy O'Connor MR posted by editor

    April 26, 2016 at 6:59 pm

    Whole Lot of Nothing on Secretive Forestry EOI Process

    Cassy O’Connor MP | Greens Leader and Forests spokesperson
    Wednesday, 27 April 2016

    Forestry Minister, Peter Gutwein, has again treated Parliament with contempt, spending more than five minutes giving no detail on the so-called Southern Residues Solution’ EOI process.

    This process began last June, yet today the Minister could only tell us that contractual negotiations with four proponents are underway.

    What are the proposals put forward? Doesn’t Minister Gutwein believe Tasmanians have a right to know?

    Will they require public subsidies as all industrial scale native forest logging in Tasmania historically has and still does to this day?

    Is there a proposal to burn forests for power, further polluting the air Tasmanians breathe and increasing the State’s currently soaring carbon emissions?

    Is there any chance at all that even one of the proposals would be sustainable or meet the requirements of Forest Stewardship Certification?

    Why is the Minister continuing to be so secretive?

  26. peter murphy

    April 26, 2016 at 3:00 pm

    To depend on the FSC to defend our forests is akin to asking Greg Hunt to save the Great Barrier Reef. Look no further than April edition of ‘New Internationlist’ for further proof that FSC are just another mouthpiece for the Asian Timber Mafia.

  27. Adrian Hyland

    April 26, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    To Ted Mead
    Who do you report logging next to an eagle nest to? Craig Butt from Forestry Tasmania, and another man in charge of burning off whom I cant remember his name, told a number of us locals at Lapoinya last week that they had to cease logging in a section of the Lapoinya coup as they had somehow not noticed the nest during their checks. When I asked how they look for them they said they fly over in a helicopter and usually cant see the nests for the trees. They had smirks on their faces while they told us and also said when they checked the nest that it was inactive and the best thing they could do for the eagles was to burn off as soon as possible. They said the burn off would go to within approximately twenty meters of the tree with the nest in it. I believe this to be the nest in the picture Stewart Hoyt had in his earlier post. You can clearly see the trees knocked down right next to it.

  28. Pete Godfrey

    April 26, 2016 at 1:54 pm

    #21 Ted, I know of an Eagle nest adjacent to a plantation, it is owned now by Forico. The plantation was logged last year and when I contacted the FPA on the matter they said that as long as it wasn’t breeding season that they could log right up to the nest tree.
    Not what I read from the DPIPWE site but that is how the Forest Practices Authority read it.
    So unless it is breeding season.
    What happens when the birds return to their nesting site to see the surrounding forest flattened I don’t know. I would assume from what I have read that they decide to decamp and build a new nest somewhere else. A pretty daunting task considering the size of their nests.
    In the plantation that I referred to, the logging took place to within 80 metres of the nest on the North side. There was a small buffer zone of native forest left around the nest when Gunns ltd established the original plantation, but nothing like the 350 metre circle or 300 by 400 metre oval that is supposed to be required.

  29. Ted Mead

    April 26, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    #17 Adrian

    As far as I know – FT haven’t been logging directly around Eagle’s nests for some time as they are bound to the EPBC act and the PWS Eagle Management Protocol.

    This usually means an exclusion zone of about 500 metres from the nest, and the complete cessation of logging in the general area during the breeding season.

    If you have found any evidence that FT have breached this then it should be reported.

    It won’t help their desperate case for FSC because the FSC report claims they seriously need to address threatened species issues in Tasmania.

    FT may claim that the nest is inactive? – don’t be fooled by that.

    The pressure is on them, so they won’t be able to hoodwink the government like what happened with development approvals regarding the Eagle’s nests at Crescent Bay.

  30. Karl Stevens

    April 26, 2016 at 12:39 pm

    Apparently, wealth extracted from places like Lapoinya is invested (laundered?) into the US property market through companies like Sunchase Holdings. Ta Ann owner Sepawi has been part of this US investment process via the company Samling.
    In the US, Ta Ann have have already ‘spread the misery’ by helping cause the 1989 sub prime mortgage crisis.
    The shrill little operatives that appear on TT are just footsoldiers for Sepawi. At least the whole scam has been laid out in the open now? How long before Interpol closes them down? Seems the Australian authorities have been compromised by the ATM.(Asian Timber Mafia)

    http://www.sarawakreport.org/2016/04/found-sarawaks-stolen-wealth-is-locked-in-a-treasure-trove-in-the-southern-united-states/

    FT is actually a ‘zombie company’ now controlled by it’s customers such as Sepawi. We all know who did Sepawi’s dirty work at Forestry Tasmania don’t we?

  31. John Hawkins

    April 26, 2016 at 11:51 am

    Lumber

    The Duke of Windsor, a Mitford daughter, a Prime Minister of Australia – a Tasmanian to boot and many others thought initially that Hitler and Mussolini were people with whom one could do business.

    I seem to remember “Peace in our Time” was the rallying cry.

    Scruffy notes that even on a short lead she can smell em through the smoke and lumber as they passes by.

    It will all end in tears.

  32. lynn jensen-schnapper

    April 26, 2016 at 4:21 am

    It is with great sadness that we read today of your report Stewart of the destruction of Lapoinya.
    Upon returning to Germany this week, a Tasmanian Fan from Tübingen who visited our precious NW Tassie last year, could not understand the criminal acts of environmental destruction that these politicians have condoned. I explained to her that it’s basically a dictatorship of money and greed and the tourists just shake their heads at this ignorance.
    We were fortunate to meet Barbara & Stewart & some others of you of FLAG this year, but should not the campaign continue to stop the remaining 300 coupes from destruction? Your FLAG film is inspiring and communicates just this.
    To Comment 11..
    Every single voice is required in a united front to rid Tasmania from this ignorant greed and in the NW, the only way to even have a chance to have your voice heard, is by the approach of saying we’re not radical greenies but everyday people.
    What is the next plan of Action considering of course the probable need for time for mourning of Lapoinya and to energize again?

  33. Adrian Hyland

    April 26, 2016 at 2:05 am

    Just wondering if logging and burning off within approx twenty meters of a Wedge Tailed Eagles nest is illegal? If so what are the consequences and who has to pay for this stuff? Or will it just get swept under the carpet and ignored?

  34. Claire Gilmour

    April 26, 2016 at 12:53 am

    I tried to tell you Lapoinya people how to save yourselves, and you ignored me in favour of the Capitol Greens! And where did that leave you ? ….. up shit creek without a paddle! If you had pushed boundaries … with my name …. as I did … you could’ve succeeded in getting more saved … but hey – real experience and links are worth what?

  35. William Boeder

    April 26, 2016 at 12:50 am

    #10. Jack Lumber, in reply to my incapacity to have you understand what it is that I want and just where I am situated as regards the Tasmanian economy, I have since gleaned further to what it is you seek since you began your participation as a commenter on this forum.
    Quite often your participation is in the manner of distractive intent and to act as a foil to aid the pernicious State government actions of logging the bejesus out of Tasmania’s Crown Land forests at a cost upon the economy of Tasmania generally.
    Situated below is a link that incorporates the names of the rogue owners of the Sarawak based rain forests destructors in this part of the South Pacific region of the Globe
    One of the prominent names contained therein is that of Hamed Sepawi, the owner of the Ta Ann Tasmania operations here in Tasmania and various other conspiracy related agencies of Ta Ann Berhad are located in this World.
    So at this point in time this link below leaves no room for doubt that Tasmania’s State government have become an integral arm of the corruption riddled notorious Ta Ann Berhad logging consortium.
    The outcome of which is the State government subsidized clear-felling of Tasmania’s absolutely unsustainable remainder of natural forests that go on to become a major source of the wealth conjured or fleeced from participant States and countries around the Globe.
    Further revelations announced within this link are the other major players who have robbed their States blind of any hope for some sort of healthy living future.
    With a great many of the rivers in both Malaysia and Sarawak running brown with mud and other residues as a result of the broad-scale logging of both Malaysia, Sarawak, then we can safely incorporate the State of the former Borneo as well, there is scant freshwater to be found throughout these now vacant land masses.
    I recommend you take your time in reading the entirety of this link for it should mandate the cessation of all the anti-Tasmanian economy Ta Ann Berhad operations now operational in this State.
    Furthermore that this matter should lead to a top level inquiry as to how the whole concept of Ta Ann Berhad had been enabled to establish themselves into such a potent force that it can threaten to devour even more of this State’s economy.
    I speak here of the other additional subsidies, funding grants, electrical energy cost concessions among the many other Tasmanian funding concessions and such like inducements given over to a company that robs the people of this State through and by this State’s willing involvement in such a ruinous State population shakedown.

    https://swk.global.ssl.fastly.net/2016/04/found-sarawaks-stolen-wealth-is-locked-in-a-treasure-trove-in-the-southern-united-states/

  36. Jack lumber

    April 26, 2016 at 12:37 am

    Mr Hawkins
    Scruffy thinks his owner is suffering from some
    sort of human condition where there is a propensity
    to exaggerate …hitler and Mussolini please .. People can protest but there are limit

    The high court appeal is a win win for you mr Hawkins
    A win is a win and a loss will result in claims of
    Corruption or the process being a ass

  37. John Hawkins

    April 25, 2016 at 10:35 pm

    The one good thing that will come out of this is the appeal by Bob Brown to the High Court of Australia over the legality of the recently passed Tasmanian Liberal Government’s Anti Protest Laws.

    Under the influence of the dreaded and appalling Abetz Tasmanians are subject to rule by a right wing Facist Government.

    Roll back World Heritage Listing, Jail those who protest and scrap all Forest Agreements but only after the money has been stolen under false pretences and paid out to ones allies.

    A Government that locks their own people out of their own forests then arrests and jails them if they dare to protest.

    This sort of behaviour brought Hitler and Mussolini to power.

    The Loss making GBE Forestry Tasmania then compounds the insult by selling the peoples forests at a loss of a million dollars a week to foreigners.

    Principally to a business located in the totally corrupt State of Malaysia whose head of state has stolen billions from his own people.

    Scruffy notes that when you lie with dogs you catch fleas.

    She can smell a flea bitten mongrel at 100 yards.

  38. MJF

    April 25, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    “Forestry Tasmania has completed its mission to clearfell the Forest, undisputed home to rare, endangered and threatened plant and animal species such as Brooker gums, devils, quolls, goshawks, eagles and the world’s largest freshwater crustacean, the Giant Freshwater Crayfish”

    Can we get an update on the predicted nil survival prospects of all the above mentioned species within the coupe thanks.

    Will the mums and dads, doctors, lawyers, nurses, candlestick makers, retired rocket scientists and other assorted community professionals be monitoring retained habitat for the above species to prove their case one way or the other ?

    In particular the E brookerana wet forest community, not “Brooker gums” which as individual trees are not rare, endangered, threatened or vulnerable – was this been reserved or mowed down ?

  39. Claire Gilmour

    April 25, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    Welcome to the real world! Now do you get It? You can’t sit back and do nothing for years and then hope the Greens will save you!

    Use it, the experience, for a catalyst for change …!

  40. Jack Lumber

    April 25, 2016 at 6:42 pm

    re 9 Thanks for not disappointing and and i assume you refer to moi as a “TT stalwart “. Noted

    However , notwithstanding the pejorative adjectives you use , no one will counter you view of where the wood went .

  41. Karl Stevens

    April 25, 2016 at 6:17 pm

    The local opposition amounted to nil here and the gov forestry agency harvested at a loss (as usual). Then you look for the suspects who made folding on this (with piercing cries of innocence from a TT stalwart).
    The ‘Asian Timber Mafia’ under the Ta Ann brand and some woodchip exporters. That’s it. How easy to see where the profits from Lapoinya ended-up? No tax paid? Interesting.
    So how long before the net closes? Do they think this will last forever?

  42. Jack Lumber

    April 25, 2016 at 5:30 pm

    re #4 William I see no fizzing and buzzing . maybe the crack and roar of a fire ( too soon ???)

    William i am so glad you have mentioned the term economics and economy -SPOILER FT loses money and must stop and must not be bailed out by Govt .

    I am happy to engage with you . You claim to know what i want ; yet it is unclear what you are proposing re the economy of Tasmania

    Come, William lets us share biscuits and your Budget paper for 2016 and beyond .

  43. Jack Lumber

    April 25, 2016 at 5:01 pm

    re 5 I revive no benefit from the activities at Flowerdale or any activities of FT -without any qualification. Keep throwing it around karl 🙂

    re 3 John I am an interested party in the management of our forests, like you and the author has made some comments that relate to FSC

    I sought some clarifications

    That said John FYI some background on why im so interested

    1 have read the FSC standards for Australia and prior to that International
    2 am a member of FSC
    3 have been involved in certification for some time including the introduction BS7740 , a precursor to the introduction of EMS in Australia and FM certification in Australia
    4 have provided comment to a number of working groups re controlled wood and also the FM standard .
    5 have also provided submissions to FSC Australia regarding the definition of HCVF and the formation of a risk assessment .
    6 I am a qualified environmental auditor . And yes i gained my quals outside of Tas

    How does that sit with you John ??

    Again there have been statements made which are specific to the operation in flowerdale and perhaps the author would like to send to FSC Australia .Its a suggestion thats all

    Or where they just a blending their opinion with the findings that where released last year re FT system ?

    John and Karl your thoughts ?

  44. Got Me Aa Shopping Spree

    April 25, 2016 at 3:38 pm

    With budgets in tatters, governments need every dollar they can get.

    You won’t see too many green decisions in the near future, no matter how warm it gets.

    “SUPERSALE TODAY! Trees, fish, water, everything must go!”

    The runaway train is getting faster. The frogs will eventually boil.

    Nice outside though, might go for a walk.

  45. Karl Stevens

    April 25, 2016 at 3:10 pm

    In my view comment one is from a person who gains a direct financial benefit from clear-fell operations such as Lapoinya.
    That’s why I do not engage with commenter 1. Also, I urge other TT readers to not engage with commenter 1 until he reveals his identity.

    (edited)

  46. William Boeder

    April 25, 2016 at 2:56 pm

    #1. Jack, what are your thoughts to Tasmanian forestry buzzing and fizzing with exuberance in its frenzied haste to clear-fell more of Tasmania, turn the bulk of it into bastard wood-chips, hugely reduce the wildlife numbers along with its habitat, then the creating reason for subsequent toxic forestry burn-offs, then all of the other downsides of trashing one’s State?
    Where amongst these above activities do you find yourself situated?
    Then what will be your legacy when you are called upstairs above the clouds and asked what have you done to make the World a better place for your fellow citizens in Tasmania.
    (In future I will be referring to Forestry Tasmania ‘as the present State government’ anything else is a charade.)
    After all they are the legislating supporters/sponsors for the insanity of this bogan-brained ecology wrecking Tasmanian bred beast.
    Though what I find rather pathetic and stupid in this sponsorship program by the ministers in this State, is the allowance ‘for the greater wealth’ of this anti-the-State’s citizens, World-wide corrupted business entity outside of Tasmania, is gifted to the toxic cluster of laughing Cane Toads otherwise known to us as Ta Ann.
    It has been rumoured that a certain former State government pyro-maniac went to school with the Ta Ann owner, then subsequent to that bonding session and at a later time, this overseas school buddy has since been enabled to feed his wealth accumulations as a result of being able to dictate to the compliant and grossly inept Tasmanian State government ministers about that which is not theirs to destroy.

    So Jack where do you feature in this State’s slide into the looming (yet once upon a time preventable) economic abyss?

  47. john hayward

    April 25, 2016 at 2:40 pm

    Lumber, Number 1.

    Just a few questions:
    1. What are your qualifications for interrogating someone about Tasmanian bureaucratic procedures?
    2. Are you professionally disinterested in Tasmanian forestry issues?

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

    John Hayward

  48. Mike Bolan

    April 25, 2016 at 2:16 pm

    This miserable affair demonstrates that the State government does not believe that locals have any right to determine the quality of their environment. The tedious upshot is that no matter the reasons, local communities are always trumped by whatever the State government wants.
    How is that democracy?

  49. Jack Lumber

    April 25, 2016 at 12:58 pm

    Stewart thank you for your tale of woe and sadness and to bookend your footnote

    Just a couple of things
    1 Are your comments just opinions or the result of an in feild audit ?
    2 Are you accredited to assess the coupe at Flowerdale against the FSC standards?
    3 Which FSC standard did you actually use? and can we have the specific CAR for this operation
    5 Is the 49 ha WPZ Forest actually HCVF or are you just putting up for consideration .

    Guess its sort of a moot point as its been clearfelled which would suggest it was in fact NOT HCVF

    But finally thank you for providing the definitive case study of NIMBY

    SHAME it all came to this

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