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Why spruik a dying industry? One law for Ali … Message for Ta Ann customers. Peg Putt’s message

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Bryan Green in the background to Premier Lara Giddings

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Will Hodgman

On the same day Bryan Green finally conceded Tasmanian native forest woodchips were on the nose with Asian customers, online booking company Wotif posted a first-half after tax profit of nearly $29 million. On ABC radio this morning, the Deputy Premier admitted plantation woodchips from Vietnam and Thailand could be produced for less than chips from Tasmanian native forests, with the strength of the local currency making good ol’ Tassie woodchips even less attractive.

In what amounted to a gloomy report on the success of his overseas sales pitch for Ta Ann and Forestry Tasmania, Green also inferred only the Chinese, who clearly aren’t as picky as the Japanese, remained the only real market for the local product.

In short, the power of market forces, rather than a handful of Greenies dressed in possum outfits, are to blame for the woes of the timber industry. Give that conclusion, one must wonder at the justification of paying for the Deputy Premier’s trip at all. No amount of gentle persuasion by either Bryan Green or Will Hodgman will push the Australian dollar lower, or force multi-billion dollar corporations to pay a premium for Tasmanian woodchips.

Many Australian firms face pressure from the currency. Even Wotif, despite booking a 14 per cent rise in profit, noted the impact of the strong Aussie dollar.

Some won’t survive. Ta Ann, a company not listed on the Australian Stock Exchange, probably wouldn’t without support in the form of emergency funding from a parent company and a supply of taxpayer-subsidised timber.

Others are doing ok.

Wotif is a household name, despite pretty humble beginnings a decade ago. Easily the most successful online franchise in Australia, the company’s revenues are approaching $150 million per annum with a rapidly growing international footprint.

Graeme Wood, often portrayed as a troublemaking Greenie, founded Wotif. He remains on the Board and owns some $200 million in Wotif shares.

So my question is this: Why are our elected representatives spruiking a dying industry in Asia, when they could be promoting Tasmania as the perfect location in which to base an international business?

We’ve got Australia’s cheapest housing. We can offer a ready availability (some might say oversupply) of commercial property. Green, renewable electricity. An excellent university, producing a steady stream of graduates in disciplines essential in the modern corporate world.

Why isn’t Bryan Green talking to Graeme Wood and his fellow directors? Wotif employs 500 people, and spends millions in year in research and development. It represents many of the values Tasmania should aspire to.

Instead, our politicians are bogged down in semantics; trying to debate the differences between regrowth and replanted timber with an audience no longer listening.

Wotif is just one company. There are thousands of others which could potentially make a positive, and significant contribution to both Tasmania’s economy without relying solely on the extraction of natural resources or Government subsidies.

On TT: Government facing up to challenges facing forest industry

• MARKETS FOR CHANGE

MEDIA RELEASE 22 February, 2012

GREENWASHING WOODCHIPS FOR OVERSEAS MARKETS WON’T WORK

Markets for Change today warned that attempts to rebuild and lock in woodchip exports from ongoing Tasmanian native forest destruction and promote establishment of furnaces burning native forests for electricity by the Asian trade mission in Singapore and Tokyo are under their close scrutiny. Markets for Change is actively researching the situation regarding market sensitivities around these products with environmental groups in Asia.

“The Deputy Premier and Opposition Leader are doing the bidding of the native forest industry and Forestry Tasmania, seeking to undermine possible conservation outcomes from forest talks with new contracts and proposals reliant on logging the high conservation value forests and resisting a transition out of native forest to plantations for industrial use,” said Peg Putt, Corporate and International Liason for Markets for Change.

“Market sensitivities about environmental impacts and credentials are in play for wood chip exports and forest furnaces, which means that Tasmanian products based on forest destruction could yet again be proven unacceptable.”

“The enticement being offered to overseas companies to take this tarnished supply is a cut price product, and we can predict that the brief offers woodchip exports from Forestry Tasmania at a price that entails a possible $2.5 – $3 million loss for each shipment.”

“Overseas proponents of renewable energy require the best environmental reputation, not controversial incineration of native forests with the adverse impacts on climate change and the forests themselves.”

“Markets for Change repeats our message that greenwashing products, the ongoing destruction of globally important forests, bad faith in the forests process and attacking environmental groups is no way to ensure that overseas markets will have confidence in the products they are purchasing from Tasmania.”

“The industry has to accept that the way to a secure long term future is helping ensure the protection of these forests along with a scale of operations and a plantation base that is sustainable,” Ms Putt concluded.

• ABC Online: Company behind Gunns’ deal breaks silence

The company considering buying a 40 per cent stake in Tasmanian timber company Gunns has broken its silence on the proposed deal.

Gunns told the stock exchange earlier this month it had reached a proposed $150 million deal with the Richard Chandler Corporation.

In return, the Singapore-based company will receive a 40 per cent stake in Gunns which will be able to clear its debt by the end of the year.

Nearly two weeks after the announcement, the Richard Chandler Corporation has made its first public statement.

It says it will complete its due diligence on the proposed deal by next month and is looking to create employment and a sustainable industry through the investment.

The statement does not directly refer to the Bell Bay pulp mill, but says the company hopes to obtain a social licence and community support.

Financial analyst Chris Elliott says the company will be thorough in its assessment of Gunns.

“They’re not just going to walk into the office of Gunns and just have a quick glance over their books.”

Read the rest, ABC Online, here

• One law for Ali, another for Forestry Tasmania: Brown

Australian Greens Leader Bob Brown says the 3 month jail sentence imposed on peaceful logging blockader Ali Alishah is in astounding comparison with every Forestry Tasmania officer involved in illegally logging 7 hectares of high conservation value forest in 2007 getting off scot-free.

“When the world heritage value Arve Forest Reserve, a Hartz Range outlier, was logged, there were no police called in and taxpayers footed the bill for Forestry Tasmania’s paltry $25,000 fine imposed by the Forest Practices Authority,” Senator Brown said.

“In light of this comparison, Ali’s sentence is manifestly unfair and symptomatic of this rogue agency’s impact on Tasmanian life in 2012,” Senator Brown said.

… Forest activist behind bars

An environmental campaigner has been sentenced to three months jail for breaching a suspended sentence by continuing to protests against logging.

Ali Alishah, 28, appeared in the Magistrates Court in Hobart charged with breaching a suspended three month jail sentence.

Alishah spent five weeks and four days in Risdon Prison last September for breaching his bail conditions.

His lawyer told the court that jail had a sobering effect on his client.

He said Alishah had a history of ignoring the orders of the court and continuing to protest, but that since his release from jail in October Alishah had found ways to campaign which would not break the law.

Magistrate Chris Webster said Alishah’s actions had endangered not only himself but others.

He sentenced Alishah to three months jail, minus the time he his already served.

Alishah was also given a three month jail sentence for trespass and committing a nuisance, suspended on the condition he is of good behaviour for two years.

He has also been disqualified from driving for three months.

Outside the court, the leader of the Huon Valley Environment Centre became distressed and started crying during a media conference.

Jenny Weber said jailing Alishah would not stop the protests.

“People will continue to stand up for Tasmania’s forests.”

ABC Online here

• Jenny Weber: Environmental Campaigner Jailed in Tasmania

Environmental Campaigner Ali Alishah has been today sentenced for 3 months jail for protests against Gunns Ltd proposed pulp mill, the Malaysian logging giant Ta Ann and logging in high conservation value forests.

Ali Alishah, 28, appeared in the Magistrates court in Hobart charged with breaching a suspended sentence.

In September 2011, Alishah spent five weeks and four days in Risdon Prison for breaching his bail conditions. This time spent in jail will be taken off his three month sentence.

Alishah was also given a three month jail sentence for trespass and committing a nuisance, suspended on the condition he is of good behaviour for two years.

‘Ali is a non violent protestor with a strong dedication to environmental justice, it was very emotional to witness a member of our activist community, leave the court room for Risdon prison. We will conduct a prisoner support campaign for Ali, which will include posting him letters while he is serving his time,’ Huon Valley Environment Centre’s Jenny Weber said.

‘Ali Alishah is the first forest activist to be sentenced to prison for non violent protest in Tasmania. Though his sentence will not deter our non violent direct action campaign, we will continue to demonstrate about the logging of high conservation value forests in Tasmania,’ Jenny Weber said.

Dave Groves’ view here

• Matthew Denholm, The Australian: Tougher protection puts logging contracts in doubt

TASMANIA’S state-owned logging agency faces difficulty in meeting a key contract — to mills employing 160 workers — because of tougher environmental restrictions and a timber shortfall.

Forestry Tasmania needs to produce 265,000cu m a year of logs for veneer maker Ta Ann, which has two mills in the state, under a 20-year contract running until 2027. In an analysis for the forest peace process in June, FT said this amount of wood was available from native forests until 2030, as long as no further forests were added to reserves.

These volumes were also based on a 10 per cent “discount” to account for restrictions under the Forest Practices Code, such as requirements to leave areas standing for endangered species.

However, the independent regulator of the code, the Forest Practices Authority, is tightening it to better protect endangered species, particularly birds that nest in tree hollows such as the swift parrot. Preliminary modelling by FT shows these changes mean that as much as 40 per cent, rather than 10 per cent, of wood volumes from production forests need to be “discounted”.

The Australian here

• Miranda Gibson: Global message to Ta Ann’s customers calling for end to forest destruction

Conservationist Miranda Gibson has today written to the Japanese corporate customers of Ta Ann to inform them of the 70 actions that took place last week in support of Tasmania’s forests. Miranda Gibson has spent the last 10 weeks at the top of a tree in forest that is threatened by logging in order to supply wood to Ta Ann.

“Today we are sending a clear message to Ta Ann’s Japanese corporate customers and asking them not to purchase wood sourced from our precious high conservation value forests. Last week, over 70 actions took place in 15 countries around the world in support of Tassie’s spectacular forests” said Miranda Gibson.

“Today Bryan Green is meeting with Ta Ann’s Japanese customers. If the Tasmanian government had taken real action to protect native forests, then Bryan Green would be able to reassure those companies today. However, as long as Ta Ann continue to destroy native forests and to lie about their products there will be instability in the market” said Ms Gibson

“We fear that Bryan Green’s efforts today are a further attempt to cover up the lies of Ta Ann. Our correspondence with these companies today is bringing to their attention the fact that the international community know the truth about Ta Ann and will not accept Ta Ann’s ongoing role in native forest destruction.” said Ms Gibson.

Actions are set to continue in Tasmania and around the world to highlight Ta Ann’s role as the driving force behind Tasmanian forest destruction.

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• TA ANN & DEPUTY PREMIER CAN MAKE TODAY A BREAKTHROUGH DAY

The opportunity to make a breakthrough on authenticity in eco-plywood and secure long term market acceptability in Japan is before Ta Ann and the Deputy Premier when they meet with Ta Ann customer companies today said Markets for Change.

When they met over dinner last night in Japan to organise their approach to customers, Ta Ann should have made it clear to the Deputy Premier that they will no longer accept wood sourced from within the ENGO high conservation value forests. The Deputy Premier should have ensured that Forestry Tasmania would meet this requirement, and they would now be in a position to sell to Japanese a conflict free and genuinely eco-friendly product. This is what the global markets are demanding.

The alternative is that the company and the Deputy Premier will have stitched together a greenwashing deal along the lines of letters Bryan Green has sent to customer companies and others overseas in which he carefully glosses over the problems with Ta Ann receiving wood from forests that the InterGovernmental Agreement agreed to immediately protect in their entirety last August. This would place markets at continued risk.

Markets for Change warned that if the Deputy Premier uses these meetings with Ta Ann customers in Osaka to greenwash the very real problems with Ta Ann’s wood supply as he indicated in his public statements on leaving Tasmania, he will be placing Tasmania’s brand as a clean, green producer at serious risk.

“Instead we hope that Ta Ann and the Deputy Premier have it in them to make this a turning point and to announce that they will no longer be taking wood, currently supplied by Forestry Tasmania, from inside the controversial high conservation value forests and will move rapidly to a plantation based supply. Such a breakthrough would satisfy market expectations for genuinely eco-friendly product, secure contracts and secure jobs,” said Tim Birch, CEO of Markets for Change.

The work of Markets for Change has focused attention on the contradiction at the heart of Ta Ann’s corporate environmental identity, and exposed their misleading claims to Japanese and European customer companies who thought they were buying plantation grown timber not native forest logged from controversial high conservation value forests. As a result of this contradiction customers overseas have stopped buying this product.

“In Japan, rising environmental consciousness has led to strong demand for eco-friendly housing materials. Plywood flooring incorporating veneer sheets of Tasmanian origin is being advertised by Ta Ann’s business partners in Japan as high quality eucalypt plantation material with the highest environmental reputation yet this is not the truth,” Mr Birch said.

“Yet in Tasmania Ta Ann, the company making this sheeting, has repeatedly gone on the public record saying that they cannot use plantations and rely on wood sourced from logging native forests, including from ENGO recognised high conservation value forests.”

“The only way to properly satisfy markets is to protect high conservation value forests, not log them, and commit to a scale of operations and a plantation base that is sustainable.”

“Markets for Change will work with those companies moving in this direction and actively help secure their markets. This is vital for the conservation of such globally important forests and the long term future of the industry guaranteeing jobs.”

“It is clear that a failure to be genuine with environmental claims will simply not wash with international markets. It also puts at ongoing risk Tasmania’s clean green reputation and the jobs of forest workers,” concluded Mr Birch.

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24 Comments

24 Comments

  1. William Boeder

    February 27, 2012 at 3:19 am

    Thank you Barnaby for your research and the provision of this link that clearly displays the “dishonest to Tasmania activities engaged in” by this particular loud-mouthed over-lording MLC by the name of Paul Harriss, (the sly-minded independant member for Huon,) this man’s in my view reprehensible conduct is of the most contemptible yet to be revealed in Tasmania in our recent times, (almost a carbon copy to the character and conducts of Bryan Green, this State’s disappointingly delegated Deputy Premier.)

    Furthermore this link has illustrated the deepest and darkest depths of infamy and false purpose as so engaged in by this supposed citizen-elected Tasmanian government official, (acting on behalf of this State’s GBE of Forestry Tasmania and also the Ta Ann veneer-mill operators,) .

    What hope is their for our forested lands when persons of this lowliest calibre are touring beyond our shores collaborating with persons acting in ugly detriment to the Tasmania we had formerly grown to love and respect?

  2. Garry Stannus

    February 26, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    How about Deal Island?

  3. Shaun

    February 25, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    Regardless of whether or not FT has over-committed itself, there is surely a huge supply of timber available elsewhere in the world. If there wasn’t, then we wouldn’t have such a low price and we wouldn’t be burning wood to generate electricity.

    I suggest that the real reason for putting the pulp mill at Bell Bay is pretty simple really. Partially feed it with Tasmanian timber, and import the remainder. From a purely economic perspective, it makes perfectly good sense.

    If the mill was to be located in the north-west then Hampshire doesn’t seem to be a good site since it would involve double handling of the imported timber. Burnie could be an option using a conveyor system directly from the wharf but forget Hampshire it’s just too far.

    Alternatively, build it on the coast somewhere (and we’ve got plenty of coast well away from people so this should be no problem) and build a dedicated port with it.

  4. Mike Adams

    February 25, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    Let it be noted that the original ‘breach of bail’ conditions that were instrumental in putting Ali Alishah into Risdon for the five weeks and four days on remand were dropped by the police prosecutor allowing Magistrate Webster no alternative but to release him.
    Ali’s pleasure on his release was very noticeable.
    Ali’s ‘illegal activities’ pale in comparison with what he was protesting about.

  5. Garry Stannus

    February 25, 2012 at 10:26 am

    Here is what Matthew Denholm wrote in his article “Tougher protection puts logging contracts in doubt” (From: The Australian, February 23, 2012 12:00AM):
    ……………………………………………………
    “TASMANIA’S state-owned logging agency faces difficulty in meeting a key contract — to mills employing 160 workers — because of tougher environmental restrictions and a timber shortfall.

    “Forestry Tasmania needs to produce 265,000cu m a year of logs for veneer maker Ta Ann, which has two mills in the state, under a 20-year contract running until 2027. In an analysis for the forest peace process in June, FT said this amount of wood was available from native forests until 2030, as long as no further forests were added to reserves.

    “These volumes were also based on a 10 per cent “discount” to account for restrictions under the Forest Practices Code, such as requirements to leave areas standing for endangered species.

    “However, the independent regulator of the code, the Forest Practices Authority, is tightening it to better protect endangered species, particularly birds that nest in tree hollows such as the swift parrot. Preliminary modelling by FT shows these changes mean that as much as 40 per cent, rather than 10 per cent, of wood volumes from production forests need to be “discounted”.

    “FT corporate manager Ken Jeffreys confirmed that a 40 per cent discount would reduce the average amount of veneer wood available from public native forests to about 177,000cu m a year.

    “As well as code restraints, independent logging schedulers assisting the forest peace talks have identified a separate “annualised shortfall” of 39,000cu m of veneer logs, which must be found from outside state forests.

    “FT forest management chief John Hickey said that for FT to meet its target of 265,000cu m of veneer logs each year, a much more pragmatic view was needed of the code changes and the creation of new reserves.

    “However, authority chief Graham Wilkinson said while his body would consult with FT and industry it could not water down scientifically based requirements for the protection of threatened species. Mr Jeffreys insisted that despite any difficulties, FT would meet the terms of its Ta Ann contract. He said the creation of new reserves would lower the discount rate and he was confident of filling any shortfall from plantations and private sources.

    “Ta Ann declined to say what level of concern it had about the issue. However, a spokesman pointed out that both sides in the forest peace process had guaranteed support for its 265,000cu m a year of veneer logs.”
    …………………………………………………..
    So as well as potential pressure from a Forest Practices Authority tightening of the Forest Practices Code, Forestry Tasmania is experiencing an “annualised shortfall” of 39,000cu m of veneer logs. That is, they can’t meet their contract with Ta Ann. They over-committed our forests to the chopping-block. I think it should be FT on the chopping-block and I agree with the calls for Forestry Tasmania to be abolished and to be replaced by a body whose priority is the protection and conservation of our forests, a body that is not itself a logging enterprise, as is the present FT.

    [PS thank you Barnaby for your link at #21]

  6. Barnaby Drake

    February 25, 2012 at 7:16 am

    Here is a little bit of political dynamite.

    I suggest a compulsive read for all Ta Ann and Forestry spruikers and an idea what our own Independent MP’s are up to.

    http://mocsarawak.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/holland-condemns-malaysia’s-timber-certification/

    An eye-opener, to say the least. And to think that Bryan Green and Will Hodgman were meeting with this gang earlier this week!

  7. PB

    February 23, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Correction to #19. Rather than “low value” I should obviously have stated “negative value”.

  8. PB

    February 23, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Yet again pro-forestry spruikers such as George Harris#10 promote the lie that the industry stopped converting native forests to plantations when FT announced an immediate end to the practice on 1 June 2007.

    FT’s own reports show that 10,650 hectares have been converted in the last 5 years from 2006/07 to 2010/11.

    Refer to Table 3.8 on page 10 of this report which I have also reproduced as follows:

    http://www.forestrytas.com.au/uploads/File/pdf/pdf2011/appendix2_data_tables_2011.pdf

    3.8 Plantation established on previously cleared native forest (i.e. where harvesting was initiated prior to 31/12/2006) (hectares)

    State forest (1) 2006/07 2007/08 2008/09 2009/10 2010/11
    Annual conversion 4,550 3,180 2,190 700 30
    Cumulative NF converted since 1996 43,150 46,330 48,520 49,220 49,250
    Proportion of 1996 baseline
    statewide native forest (2) 1.4% 1.4% 1.5% 1.5% 1.5%

    notes:
    1. Areas include land managed by Forestry Tasmania in Buckland Military Training Area.
    2. Native forest on all tenures, as mapped in 1996 (3.21 million ha baseline).

    Furthermore, Tasmania’s Permanent Native Forest Estate Policy allows broadscale clearing and conversion of native forest on private land until 1 January 2015:

    http://www.dier.tas.gov.au/forests/permanent_native_forest_estate_policy

    All the evidence shows that the future of the craft industry has been put at risk, not by “greenies” but by FT overcutting, clearfelling and burning our native forests (including special species timbers which would have provided years of supply) for low value, high volume woodchips/peelers.

    I look forward to George’s support in the campaign to abolish the arrogant, dysfunctional, loss making GBE that goes by the name of Forestry Tasmania now.

  9. Peter Henning

    February 22, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    #10 The fact of the matter, George Harris, is that the policies which you have supported for years are precisely what are destroying your own particular niche in the industry. You are enamoured of clearfelling for woodchipping as the mainstay of the Tasmanian forestry industry, in the misguided belief that wrecking your own resource will somehow provide you with access to what you want out of the carnage. That has been your position irrespective of all the evidence overwhelmingly weighted against everything you say.

    You are actually supporting policies which are wrecking what you say you want to preserve for your own economic interests.

    Unfortunately, you are not only damaging your own interests, but the interests of future generations of Tasmanians by your strange view that clearfelling for woodchipping will somehow give sustenance to “special timbers” rather than obliterating them.

  10. max

    February 22, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    10 # You put up a good sounding argument George. Now would you tell us where speciality timbers will come from when the last piece of old growth forest is clear felled. It’s a case of you can’t have your cake and eat it. Re growth peeler logs are another name for immature sawlogs, but is it better to give them away now and be damned to the long term future. Where have stands of leatherwoods gone, did the bees eat them or were they in the road of sustainable forestry, myrtle a beautiful timber but slow growing, chipped and replaced with fast growing eucalyptus for an insatiable chip industry, not a good picture of a so called sustainable industry.

  11. Karl Stevens

    February 22, 2012 at 9:57 am

    Anne Cadwallader 12. Writing that wasn’t too hard but credit must go to the Editor for publishing it. It gets worse when you consider a foreign company was being begged to exploit and poison this politician’s own constituents.

  12. phill Parsons

    February 22, 2012 at 8:37 am

    China’s market is open because of a shortage of raw material in a huge market for paper of all grades. But will it pay a full value return to the Tasmanian taxpayer comparable to the value as a Carbon store of $884 per tonne. [Native forest grown over 80 year cycle at 50% C per tonne of wood at an average C price of $23pt]

  13. phill Parsons

    February 22, 2012 at 8:24 am

    #7. Its not just the protestors who change but so does the legal system, the police and the community. As the first two sectors loose confidence in the cause they have been forced to defend they go into a community that asks more and more questions to find fewer and fewer answers before the edifice falls.

  14. Anne Cadwallader

    February 22, 2012 at 7:33 am

    “A trade mission by a drink driver who has been on criminal charges, supposedly to rescue a tiny fraction of the workforce while his own government sacks thousands of essential jobs”
    Yes, its the winner of the sentence of the week award. Congratulations to Karl Stevens for this lovely summing up.

  15. Karl Stevens

    February 22, 2012 at 1:25 am

    We are witnessing the domination of evil over good in Tasmania today. A trade mission by a drink driver who has been on criminal charges, supposedly to rescue a tiny fraction of the workforce while his own government sacks thousands of essential jobs is just a symptom. The sickening muzzling of the truth by a corrupt media is another symptom. Take a look at the chaos and anarchy that these sorts of people bring to public life and ask yourself why?

  16. George Harris aka woodworker

    February 22, 2012 at 12:35 am

    I don’t know who Tom Ellison is, or thinks he is … (rest of comment challenged and deleted).

    Some of them haven’t got a clue about the timber industry, and I notice some are still claiming the industry is converting native forest to plantations, which has not been the case for more than four years.

    Some of them tar the whole industry with the same brush, and haven’t the intellectual capacity to differentiate between profitable local companies and those that have gone bust for other reasons, including greenmail and sabotage.

    Some of them would never concede that timber is the most environmentally responsible building material there is, and it represents along-term carbon store which is completely renewable and has the lowest embedded energy co-efficient of any material. Shame!

    These same people have no concept of the social, cultural, artistic or economic significance of such things as our Special Timbers, or the significance of the Tasmanian artists who work with them, including our musical instrument makers and wooden boat builders as well as our high-end furniture designers or our humble wood turners who sell beautiful products to tourists at icon events like Salamanca market. Would they admit that their selfishness threatens the future of all of them? Would they admit that this outrageous forest lock-up claim on the spurious basis that it is HCV forest (and who really said that???) will lock up around 70% of the Special Timbers territory, and 90% of the quality?

    You don’t need me to elaborate on where I think they should go, or what they should do when they get there!

    And as for Nick McKim, the sooner gone the better

  17. Bob McMahon

    February 22, 2012 at 12:05 am

    #2
    You’re barking up the wrong tree on that one Paul. Like Tasmania’s politicians of all persuasions who welcome Chandler into Tasmania for their own political and delusional ends, you’d do well to have a look at the Chandler Corporation.

    This is not a corporation that produces stuff. They haven’t so much as produced a roll of toilet paper. Chandler Corp plays the money game in the world casino of financialisation. Richard Chandler, who lives in one casino state, Monaco, sees financial opportunities in another state addicted to gambling, Tasmania.

    When I look at Chandler Corporation the word that springs to mind is not ‘producer’ – it’s ‘raider’.

    What our governments down the years have worked assiduously to facilitate is just about to come to pass – foreign ownership of our resources, including land, trees and water. Well done dipsticks.

    Good luck with your Hampshire mill Paul. Like the Longreach one it’s just a dream factory.

  18. David Obendorf

    February 21, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    This is the Taz-mania we live in – like it or not. I keep scratching my head what possessed a group of politicians like Tasmanian Greens to go into Government with this wastrel State Labor lot?

    One thing you’re guaranteeed … by voting you elect the calibre of politicians that currently occupy our Parliament.

    Will Hodgman will take over as the next puppet Premier after 2014 and this mediocre Labor lot (and the Greens) will be out of office. The Liberals will be in majority for little reason than after 16 years of swindling, the electors would rather try a new lot of political gangsters, for a change.

    There’s an Inconvenient Truth looming though. Climate Change is now a run away train and there’s no stopping China and India on their economic trajectory. Seven billion people and a net increase in the 100’s per second… the Revenge of Gaia has begun.

  19. Steve

    February 21, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    The problem with gaoling protesters is that it’s only a temporary fix. Quite soon protesters adjust to the new paradigm. Three months in gaol, could be a holiday compared with three months up a tree. Reflect on the suffragettes.
    Then comes the backlash of being a country who gaols protesters, combined with the cost of locking up essentially harmless individuals.
    Do they reckon they’re going to get money for a pulp mill by locking up everyone who disagrees with them?
    Better strategy is the threat of gaol. Once you start locking people up, the bluff is called and there’s no fall back position, short of calling in the army.
    The time may well come when it’s a really good entry on your CV; “Three months in Risdon for standing up for what I believed in” .

  20. Karl Stevens

    February 21, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    The due diligence being undertaken by members of TAP into the ‘Richard Chandler Corporation’ are proving to be very interesting. Especially in relation to a company Chandler operated called ‘Sovereign Group’.

    Unfortunately ‘Sovereign Group’ ran into some quite serious problems in a number of countries. Usually the owners of companies like ‘Sovereign Group’ don’t change over time. Ttey only get better at what they are doing. This bodes very badly for not only Gunns shareholders but also the State of Tasmania.

  21. john hayward

    February 21, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    Tom is working with the wrong sort of data.

    A $5,000 revenue flow directly to a key politician is probably worth more to our leaders than a $50,000,000 boost or loss to the state’s economy.

    Why else would they sell the public’s natural resources at a perennial loss?

    John Hayward

  22. William Boeder

    February 21, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    So now there it is for all to see, Bryan Green’s reference to the planned surging forward of the conversion of our Native Forests into woodchips.

    This controversial minister would calmly sell the entire fabric of our Native forests should he himself and Lara Giddings, along with the Executive Board of this unworthy yet priviliged GBE, (they whom hatch out the evil operations of Forestry Tasmania,) take it upon themselves to force this ruinous wood-chipping program forward?

    Now that this small number of persons have been fingered, we find that this is the actual miniscule number of individuals forging this schemery forward to be in the order of 2 persons Lara Giddings, Bryan Green, then those who sit on the Forestry Tasmania Directors Board.

    So we see that it is only 7-8 people that are actually pushing for the further destruction of Tasmania’s HCV Forests.

    Surely there are enough alternate minded people about whom could halt the disasters now being planned by this small group of above-mentioned despots?

    Surely the amount of money this GBE costs this State, can be redirected into another less destructive Industrial Enterprise that will provide substantial benefit to the revenues of Tasmania going forward?

  23. Paul Bryant

    February 21, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    Maybe Richard Chandler Corporation will get Gunns to build the pulp mill at Hampshire instead. Would be very consistent with Richard’s philosophy.

  24. pilko

    February 21, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    Why doesnt the Tasmanian Government talk to Graeme Wood you ask Tom?

    Because just like the vampire who recoils at the sight of the crucifix so do ‘The Mates’ whenever a politician or businessman comes to Tasmania and drives a stake through the heart of the zombie woodchip industry as Cameron and Wood did when they purchased Triabunna

    Remember the hissing, spitting and the blood curdling screams of the Peter Gutweins, Will Hodgmans, Robert Wallace and the Premier herself when the Triabunna mill into the hands of Wood & Cameron?

    Wood and Cameron are not welcome in Will & Lara’s New Tasmania.

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