I think a fair bit of wishful thinking, or to be charitable, misunderstanding about local politics that has led some journalists to wonder if Denison can be won by the Greens at the upcoming federal election.
Fran Kelly writing for the ABC’s The Drum thinks that with long-time sitting Labor member Duncan Kerr retiring “it’s just the sort of inner-city seat that’s vulnerable to an attack by the Greens off the back of the disillusionment caused by Kevin Rudd’s backdown on the ETS.”
Sue Neales at The Mercury floats Andrew Wilkie as a possible independent candidate with a chance. She also cites ABC election analyst Antony Green’s view that “Dension could be a surprise package at this year’s election, with a distinct possibility the Greens or an independent could unseat Labor.”
I never say never in politics, but I would put the probability of a victory other than Labor in Dension at less than 5 per cent. Labor will win, with a lesser margin than the one that Mr Kerr has been able to build, but win it nonetheless.
The idea that the Greens have a chance stems from some similarities on primary vote at the 2007 election with three other capital city Labor seats: Melbourne (Lindsay Tanner), Grayndler in Sydney (Anthony Albenese) and Adelaide (Kate Ellis). Below I have tabulated the primary and 2pp results for each of those electorates in 2007.
The nearest comparison is Melbourne. There Liberals finished third after minor party preferences were distributed, and when the Liberal candidate was eliminated her preferences flowed to the Greens over Labor at a whopping 83% to 17%.
Much of the speculation that the Greens can take Dension centres on a Melbourne scenario: that the Greens can do better than the Libs, then will out-gun Labor on Liberal preferences. Let’s put that one to rest now. There is no way on God’s earth that Denison Liberal voters will preference the Greens anything like 85%. It would be lucky to be 30%. Can anyone seriously see a Liberal party in Tasmania, led by Eric Abetz and Will Hodgman fresh from shunning the Greens at the March state election, suddenly beseeching the faithful to favour the Greens now? And even if they did, Tasmanian voters are notoriously difficult to direct on preferences.
In addition, this scenario relies on a big drop in Labor’s vote. Many pundits see a large Kerr personal vote up for grabs. Won’t lefty, greenie types, who have stuck with Duncan now be free to vote with the Greens? they ponder. Well, they might, but I don’t think in any numbers enough to put the seat in doubt.
The first reason is that the “incumbency factor” is rarely as great as many commentators and journalists think. Stanford University’s Simon Jackman found a “retirement slump” of only 2.5 – 3% on average for ALP seats across the country. This is supported by Denison’s neighbour, Franklin, in 2007: there a popular, long term sitting Labor incumbent in Harry Quick retired, yet Labor lost just 5.0% on primaries.
My feeling is that Labor will shed somewhere around the 5% mark on primaries in Denison this time too. I can’t see a compelling argument that it will be more. The Labor candidate, Jonathan Jackson comes from the Kerr’s Left faction, he is heavily endorsed by Kerr and is the son of trendy leftie and ex-state minister Judy Jackson. Some Labor votes will drift to the Greens and to the Libs, particularly if the swing against Rudd is on, but I can’t see the primary vote dropping below the low 40’s.
And even if Jackson had a horror time and dropped 10% off the primary support he would still win. He would be elected on the preference of the third last candidate be it Liberal or Green.
Fran Kelly is wrong: Denison is not the sort of inner-city seat that’s vulnerable to an attack by the Greens. Denison has not got the demographics of Melbourne, Grayndler or Adelaide. For example, of Australia’s 150 electorates, the ABS ranks Melbourne as the 24th most socio-economically advantaged and Dension the 78th. Adelaide is the 43rd most advantaged and Grayndler the 26th. These are small geographically, affluent electorates with professionally educated voters. Not the mix of traditional welfare, working class and public service Labor faithful you see in Denison.
Don’t be fooled by the mainland hype. Denison is Labor’s in 2007.
UPDATE:I’ve been asked by a couple of people for my view on Andrew Wilkie’s chances if he stood as an independent.
In a field containing Wilkie and a candidate from each of the three major parties – Green, Labor and Liberal – I believe Wilkie is about 70% chance to run fourth. I say this because the electorate had the opportunity to embrace him as an independent at the March state election and he managed 8% of primaries, which is a great effort, but I can’t see any reason why it should suddenly increase dramatically in the space of a few months. Don’t forget that at federal elections the voters are being asked to decide, largely, who should form the next government. Much of their decision making focuses on the qualities of the prime minister and the alternative, and all the usual issues. The personalities of the individual candidates matter, but not as much as many think.
It is a fact that elections in Australia do not swing wildly from one year to the next. National swings of 3-4% are considered large. At the individual electorate level the swings can be greater, but double-digit movements are rare. In 2007 a handful of electorates swung to Labor in the 10-15% range when the swing to Rudd was on. In 2004 the biggest swing of the 150 electorates was 7.5%.
For Denison to fall, it requires a 16% swing from Labor. That’s a one-in-a-thousand event and there is no plausible reason to make Dension that unique in 2010.
UPDATE 2: I’ve been asked about the Simon Jackman research. It’s contained in a 2005 paper titled Incumbency Advantage and Candidate Quality. There is no web link that I can find, but if you would like a copy please email me (see the side bar for the address) and I can send you a PDF.
UPDATE 3: Back to Wilkie. A reader has asked about the scenario if Wilkie was the Green candidate. Okay, well, I suppose that is a possibility as he has stood for the Greens on two occasions before (Tas Senate and federal seat of Bennelong, NSW.)
Wilkie can be considered a “star” candidate for the Greens and should add to their vote. My guess is maybe a Green primary in the low twenties would be a good outcome. I just don’t think there is a feeling out there to dump the major parties – this election, like all federal elections, is about the next government of the country. The merits of individual candidates only add and subtract at the margins.
Where independents have succeeded – and there and only three currently – they have been sitting members with major party credentials who then replaced that major party. Katter moved from the Nationals to become an independent in Kennedy; Oakeshott is an ex-National, state independent took Lyne in NSW off the Nationals at a by-election; while Windsor, likewise, is an ex-National state member who won New England from the Nationals.
Wilkie as a Green in Dension doesn’t fit that scenario.
P Burns
June 20, 2010 at 12:22
You forget that the 5% loss in Franklin went against a Labor swing in the rest of the country and some of Duncan’s personal supporters/voters may see better candidates elsewhere. After all what is a personal vote? The retirement of the incumbent liberates these voters to find the next best person.
Given their stupidity in repeatedly helping to elect a do nothing like Kerr, they are unlikey to vote for a quality candidate like Wilkie.
The real problem here is the quality of the other candidates, most especially the Liberal Abetz pre-selected candidates.
My bet is that if Peg Putt stood and the Liberals select a marginally better candidate than Jackson, Peg would be elected by taking Wilkie’s 10% and the Liberals 30% with Labor not surviving to the end with 45% of the votes.
Ms Putt, please step forward and clean up whatever you turn your mind to in Federal Parliament. This would be a good thing for Denison and Australia.
Django
June 20, 2010 at 13:42
I think it’s of importance that the similar scenario in Franklin (5% against Labor) was in the face of a pretty big swing for Labor nationally, including, I would imagine, a swing of preferred PM in Franklin to Labor.
People don’t just vote for the next government when they vote for the federal lower house, they’re voting based on a number of elements, sure the national ad campaigns come in to that, of course they do.
Wilkie as an Independent has a shot at the house. It’s worth remembering that a lot of the swing to Green despite Wilkie running in March was due to a protest vote against State Labor, a protest vote which will not manifest the same way federally.
Wilkie took votes from the Greens and the Liberals, and he’d be well placed to take some of Kerr’s personal vote, too. If he doesn’t get eliminated first, then anything is possible.
David Mohr
June 20, 2010 at 16:50
You are probably right Peter, it would be a big task for the Greens to win. Big issues with many inner city voters are Climate Change, Asylum Seekers and other environmental issues such as forestry. The key to winning these seats such as Denison and Melbourne is for the Greens to campaign hard on these issues and sway left leaning Labor voters. The big unknown though is the Green candidate for Denison.
lmxly
June 20, 2010 at 17:26
There is no way Wilkie will ever stand again as a Green candidate in Tasmania. He is no longer a member of the Greens. That’s why he is an independent.
I agree Peg Putt could win the seat – if she decided to stand.
Peter Tucker
June 20, 2010 at 19:10
Thanks for the responses.
Contrary to what many people say, at the 2007 election in Tasmania there was not a big swing against the Liberals in favour of Labor. In fact, BOTH parties lost primary votes: The Libs 3.8% and Labor 1.8%.
The two party swing in Tasmania in favour of Labor washed out at 2.0%. Yes, Franklin did move against that trend – Labor lost 5.0% on primaries and 3.1% on two party preferred – but that 3.1% is right on the “retirement slump” average as established in the Jackman research.
The main point of my item is that a personal vote at federal elections is not as great as many people believe. I do not expect Kerr’s retirement to be a deciding factor in Denison in 2010.
Jon Kudelka
June 20, 2010 at 20:42
Peter, the idea is to look as marginal as possible in the hopes of getting a few of the potholes sorted out. You’re not helping.
james crotty
June 20, 2010 at 21:08
Peter, what’s your view of Wilkie for the Senate. Seems to me 8% statewide would give him a strong chance if he can get ahead of the Greens on preferences. Libs would surely prefer him to the Greens as I suspect would Labor voters.
sharon eames
June 21, 2010 at 00:43
Peg Putt as the Greens’ candidate for Denison would certainly make Denison one of the most exciting seats to watch. She was extremely popular in the south of the electorate, even with ALP voters, and the north of the electorate has been slowly warming to the Greens over the last decade. Peg’s work on pokies won the support of many in the north of the electorate. She is a proven achiever, particularly during her time as the sole Green MP. With the ALP selecting a relative unknown I think Peg could be just the right woman to win this seat for the Greens.
Dr Kevin Bonham
June 21, 2010 at 06:00
Firstly, as readers have probably gathered from my scattered and far less comprehensive comments about Denison here, I agree with Peter; the chance of anyone but Labor winning Denison, while still worth talking about, is very small.
The core point (aside from the huge gaps to be bridged) is that Denison does not have a consistently Green demographic across the full seat. Rather, it has sections that are very Green and sections that are not. The Green vote in Denison is way above what it would be if an electorate with the same demographics existed on the mainland, because the Greens are very much more historically prominent in Tasmania. But because of that mixed demographic, it is very hard to lift the Green vote by huge amounts over the whole electorate, which is what would be needed to win – barring active cooperation from the Liberals and a very great deal of luck.
I am baffled by the claims that Peg Putt would be a threat in Denison as a Greens’ candidate. People seem to forget that Bob Brown ran for Denison against Duncan Kerr way back in 1993. Far from being a retired ex-leader, Brown was a well established state MHA with a very high profile. The contest was enormously hyped as an attempt by the Greens to break into the Lower House but in the end Brown not only failed but recorded a vote of 14.2% which was 3.7 points below what the party recorded in the previous state election. He got less than half the Liberal vote even though the Liberal candidate in that election, Phil Ryan, was viewed as so harmless by Kerr that Kerr still claims Brown was his main opposition.
Putt is not only retired but is so for good reason as her very combative style passed its political use-by date once her old foes Lennon and Hidding were gone from the leadership scene. Putt would be as out of place in a contest with a fresh young Labor candidate (however obscure) as she was against Bartlett and Hodgman jnr. I do not like to make too much of “preferred premier” scores, but it is significant that when Bartlett replaced Lennon, Peg Putt’s preferred premier score immediately crashed from 14 to 8 with hardly any change in the Greens primary. That is a far greater change as a proportion of her previous score than affected Hodgman, and what it showed was that given a choice between Putt and a fresh young Labor face making agreeable noises, Greens voters were at least thinking about the latter. But once the fresh young face was one of their own, that stopped; McKim hasn’t looked back since.
Re #1, Peg would not “take Wilkie’s 10%” because the Wilkie vote is not drawn exclusively from green/left voters but comes from both Green and Liberal sources and would therefore not flow very strongly to the Greens over the Liberals. In any case, what are your primary votes for Labor and the Greens in your scenario? If you are saying Putt takes [i]all[/i] the Wilkie and Liberal votes with Labor not getting any (by the way, nothing like this ever happens in the Lower House anyway) then it still doesn’t work since Putt herself has insufficient primaries to pass the Liberal.
Re Franklin 2007, people should also keep in mind that in the leadup to the election there was a very messy Labor preselection bunfight, which probably exacerbated the impact of the retirement of the sitting member. In the case of Denison, while the sitting member is retiring after a very long time, the transition to the new candidate has been remarkably orderly and smooth so far as public understanding of it is concerned. The best chance for Labor to lose Denison was a massive faction-fight over the succession, given the safeness of the seat, the length of time it has been held for and the lack of apparent credentials of any of the names that were being floated. Somehow (and I admit some surprise about this!) Labor’s internal dealings have been strong enough to avoid any of that so the main chance for Labor to have lost the seat is gone.
Philip Lowe
June 21, 2010 at 13:17
All this political shit in Tasmania is a real downer.It’s all so parochial and gossipy but oh boy is the money good.A bit like football in England-crap.
Peter Tucker
June 21, 2010 at 19:04
Thanks again for the comments.
Peg Putt standing for the Greens might maximise the Green vote, but that would still be around the low 20’s at best. There just is no evidence of enough Green support in Denison to elect a candidate in the HoR no matter who it is. Ms Putt enjoys almost hero status among Green supporters, but I think begrudging admiration at best from Labor and Liberal voters. As Kevin intimates, her style can be very polarising: she is not the candidate to drag mainstream voters to become Green voters.
Wilkie for the Senate? Making Senate predictions is a dark art, one which I rarely attempt. It’s all to do with preference deals, and if Steve Fielding caN get elected then I suppose anyone can. But I make a couple of points: Tasmanian’s vote “below the line” at a much higher rate than elsewhere (about 25% compared to mainland <5%) which makes preference deals less influential; and his chances must improve if the election is for the full Senate (double dissolution). Personally, I can;t see him getting a seat, but I'm happy to defer to those who know more about the entrails of Senate elections.
Chris Harries
June 22, 2010 at 18:14
The greens have their best chances in particular seats that have a very strong bias towards one of the two major parties, to the extent that the Greens outpoll one major party candidate – and then slip in with preferences from that candidate.
A totally ‘safe’ Liberal or Labor seat is not a reality for the Greens because a major candidate will get over 50% of the vote, no matter what, in such a seat.
Denison can’t be regarded as ‘safe’, more than likely it will go to preferences. However, it’s a long shot for the Greens because the Liberal – Labor balance is generally too close, meaning that the Greens would most likely trail behind both major candidates.
An extraordinary campaign could probably do it, but not with an unknown candidate. And what big name is there other than Putt’s?