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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

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Who is the Premier????

Readers will recall the letter I sent to the Premier on 2 November

https://tasmaniantimes.com/2018/11/a-letter-to-the-premier-on-pallittorre-land/

I have received no direct response from the Premier but I did receive the following from his Executive Officer on 7 November in acknowledgement to my original input on 5 October, i.e. a delay of 33 days.

On behalf of the Premier, I acknowledge and thank you for your email dated 5 October 2018. The matters you have raised have been noted and your correspondence is currently being considered.

 On 23 November I received the following from the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs …

Thank you for your email of 2 November 2018 to Premier Will Hodgman MP regarding Aboriginal heritage values within Coupe BA388D inside the Permanent Timber Production Zone adjacent to your property at Liffey. I am responding on behalf of the Premier and as Minister for Aboriginal Affairs.

I have been advised that Sustainable Timber Tasmania (STD is responsible for management of the Permanent Timber Production Zones throughout Tasmania and it manages both Aboriginal and historic heritage values in accordance with their obligations under State and Commonwealth legislation.

Furtherrnore (sic), that the Forest Practices Authority (FPA), in consultation with Aboriginal Heritage Tasmania, have developed Procedures for managing Aboriginal cultural heritage when preparing Forest Practices Plans to ensure that Aboriginal heritage values are appropriately managed within wood production forests and wherever forest practices plans are required. The Forest Practices Authority, Department of Primary Industries, Parks, Water and Environment and the Aboriginal Heritage Council have endorsed these procedures. This document is available from the Forest Practices Authority website www.fpatas.gov.au.

I have also been advised that in the interests of Aboriginal heritage management best practice, STE also maintains a collaborative relationship with Aboriginal Heritage Tasmania to deliver optimal Aboriginal heritage protection and management outcomes.

Should you Wish to discuss this matter further, I encourage you to contact the SIT Engagement and Land Management Manager.

Thank you once again for your email and for your interest in cultural heritage management

 And nothing directly from the Premiers Office as of 1 December but HE is the Heritage Minister and is completely ignoring HIS responsibility. He should be meeting with the Pallittorre Elders together with the Aboriginal Minister and doing the appropriate level of community and stakeholder consultation.

It should not be delegated to STT and the FPA.

I have firsthand experience of how that might transpire given my 8 year battle with FT/FPA over the extensive European and Aboriginal heritage values of Coupe BA388D.

No need to go in to detail but it is all covered in many posts on TT …

But the incredible communication is this one from the Heritage Council Chair Dr Dianne Snowden (wife of then FT CEO Bob Gordon) in 2012.

I had requested she intervene and protect the Heritage values of the Coupe and indeed the entire area now under discussion. She replied as follows:-

Thank you for your email of 30 January 2012, concerning proposed forestry activities in the Liffey area (Your Reference: BA 388D). 

I acknowledge your concerns, but need to advise that the Historic Cultural Heritage Act 1995 specifically precludes involvement by the Tasmanian Heritage Council. 

The definition of Works in our legislation includes Part 1 (3) Works (d) ‘any removal, destruction or lopping of trees otherwise than in accordance with forest practices as defined in the Forest Practices Act 1985.’ 

The Heritage Council is therefore not able to offer any assistance in this instance. 

 So there you have it!

Thanks to Premier Groom in 1995 the only “protector” of Heritage values in forested areas is STT and the FPA.

This is not acceptable. ALL Heritage responsibility must reside with the most important elected official in the State i.e. the Premier – or is he really the Phantom?

John Powell was Born in Rushworth Victoria; educated at Dandenong High School and Monash University; National Service during the Vietnam War; employed in oil/gas, water, and the resources sectors; proud Celt; protector of environment and Aboriginal heritages, stubborn and resolute …

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27 Comments

27 Comments

  1. Mjf

    December 9, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    Yes Johnny, no argument re origins and custodianship. However it’s not against the law to visit and view relic sites as far as I’m aware on public land (in accordance with current ownership status). These locations are supposed to be confidential although I guess with nearly 7,000 recorded sites, some of the higher profile ones are now widely known. It’s a different situation if promoting such as part of a paid for experience. It seems a wiser head has prevailed after all.

    I wonder what happens on the Tasmanian Walking Company’s Bay of Fires Lodge guided walk for the well heeled ? Do the guides consciously not stop to point out and discuss a midden or two, or some remnant flakes and cores ? It’s hard to imagine they don’t while exploring the coastline via beaches. If they do, what’s the difference between that and the ill fated Lake Malbena proposal ?

    • spikey

      December 9, 2018 at 5:29 pm

      I’d guess a bloke who had a problem distinguishing between stopping to discuss a midden, and making a tourist attraction out of a sacred site, without consultation, would also likely have trouble picking the variety of ecosystems and unique inhabitants that exist under the ‘useful for corrupt forestry’ catchtag of ‘mixed forest’.

      I’d also guess this was more ‘baiting by the department’ to assess a response for use in further fascist spindoctor releases than a generally dim-witted uninformed question from the shining light of FT/STT.

      Keep on pimping coal, forestry and colonial intelligence Mr Fitch. There’s a big group of people standing behind you. Also a fair few in front, unamused, like the kiddies.

      • MjF

        December 10, 2018 at 7:48 am

        There’s not much you’re not across, Spike.
        How about my stolen porridge, what do ya know about that ?

    • Russell

      December 10, 2018 at 6:44 am

      “However it’s not against the law to visit and view relic sites as far as I’m aware on public land”

      Really? Then how come the public is locked out of so much public land by FT/STT?

      • MjF

        December 10, 2018 at 7:55 am

        Really. Your gate conundrum previously answered Langfield. Review old comments, but thanks for your ongoing interest.

        • Russell

          December 11, 2018 at 7:47 am

          The locked gates are still there, Fitch. And the public never put them there. Nor did the public bulldoze thousands of kilometres of tracks through our forests or take gorse, broom and blackberries all through it.

          The ONLY people locking up the forests from the public and trashing the ecology are FT/STT. FACT.

          Thanks for your ongoing misinformation.

  2. Chris

    December 7, 2018 at 8:36 am

  3. Mjf

    December 5, 2018 at 2:25 pm

    Let the Pallitore Elders meet with their peak representative bodies on any regulatory matters. The AHC can then have a pow-wow with the relevant ministers on their constituents’ behalf.

    Why is there a constant urge to put the cart before the horse here Johnny, or do you just wish to ignore structured protocols ? Sorry, you probably weren’t consulted when they were agreed to.

    • John powell

      December 5, 2018 at 4:04 pm

      Martin Fitch … it might be astonishing for you to know that the Pallittorre are meeting with the AHC, and one elder is on the Board.

      The cart is not before the horse. The issue is that the Premier refuses to be the accountable individual, and either ignores or delegates his responsibility to STT/FPA – not even YOU could agree that this is sensible – remember MIS Ponzi etc etc … oh wait, YOU made &&&

      • MjF

        December 6, 2018 at 8:25 pm

        As it should be John. I am now encouraged a little. They don’t need your advocation.

        • John Powell

          December 7, 2018 at 11:06 am

          The Pallittorre are delighted for my help as the Premier does not talk to Palawa/Pallittorre peoples, or listen to the AHC .. as evidenced by his support for the trashing of the Tarkine middens by the red neck hobos from Braddon etc, and supported by @brooksy4braddon

          A perfect example of the empathy and sensitivity of the whitefella elitist. Should I reference Lake Malbena also?

          • MjF

            December 8, 2018 at 8:29 am

            Yes, please do. Lake Malbena is an interesting situation. Are you referring to the proponent thinking he might like to take his paying guests on a small excursion to a relic rock carving site ?

          • John Powell

            December 8, 2018 at 5:38 pm

            Martin, re Lake Malbena, I understand the proponent has indicated the proposed excursions to iconic Palawa shelters has been dropped. And so it should have been.

            These areas do NOT belong to whitefella $$$ makers .. but to the aboriginals who own them. It is their country!

  4. John Powell

    December 5, 2018 at 2:00 pm

    Interesting dialogue with the Pallittorre in Deloraine today. Approval by DPIPWE Head for new youth Park Rangers (aboriginal), $$$ for Wyabaleena restoration, Kooparoona Niara Tours of the area .. but ZERO from the Premier.

    Compare this with Sue Hickey on ABC Hobart this am.

  5. John Powell

    December 4, 2018 at 10:59 am

    It’s fascinating that Comments to date are about style and zero about substance. The Premier MUST MEET WITH THE PALLITTORRE .. that is his job.

    If he cares not, then Will, please send Sue Hickey.

    • Kate

      December 4, 2018 at 1:41 pm

      On behalf of everyone John, I extend our apologies .. and in future I suggest that if you are after positive commentary you may have to write your own.

      • John Powell

        December 4, 2018 at 2:42 pm

        I’m happy to have negative comments, Kate. The fact there are none from the usual suspects MjF and RCH et al says it all.

        If I was wrong in my assertion I would have been inundated.

    • Trevor Burdon

      December 5, 2018 at 11:27 am

      John, so like my MIS settlement issue with STT, no-one is replying.

      Do you or anyone else know the process for acquiring STT Board’ minutes?

  6. MjF

    December 3, 2018 at 7:04 pm

    So there you have it, Johnny. Like it or lump it.

    Do you seriously think the Premier would respond to you personally ? Your name’s not Greg.

  7. Rob Halton

    December 3, 2018 at 6:37 am

    Obviously the leader of the Liberal party is Sue Hickey. O’Connor and White are following the lead in good stead.

    • Chris

      December 3, 2018 at 8:09 am

      Rong a gen the Phantoms president hails from a cult who swear on an Exclusive Brethren ideology, where they have a legacy which is transmitted from father to son, the Ghost who talks from his Uncle Otto, who’s beliefs were apparent during WW2 and now is residing in an island off the south coast of Australia.
      Mixed Erica views dominate.

  8. Chris

    December 3, 2018 at 6:26 am

    “On behalf of the Premier, I acknowledge and thank you for your email dated 5 October 2018. The matters you have raised have been noted and your correspondence is currently being considered.”

    I got the same answer months ago, but will get a reply when the Derwent freezes over or Erica relinquishes control of the parliaments and who serves in them.

    Policy vote as directed NEVER BELOW THE LINE.

  9. John Powell

    December 3, 2018 at 6:12 am

    Thank you, Kate. Believe me, those individuals have been copied in on ALL my communications.

    • spikey

      December 3, 2018 at 8:09 am

      Have you tried CC’ing the Federal group?

  10. Kate

    December 2, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    Have you been hiding under a rock for the last seven months?
    Try writing to the people in charge … Bec White, Cassy O’Connor and Sue Hickey.

    • Russell

      December 3, 2018 at 7:10 am

      Correct. The shoe is now on the other foot, just as it is in Canberra.

      Talk to the shovel, not the shit.

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