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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

Media Release

Glenorchy City Council ‘all aboard city deal’ opportunites

Mayor Kristie Johnston today announced that Glenorchy City Council has not only provided in-principle support to the City Deal but also put over $10m initially on the table to demonstrate its commitment.
Mayor Johnston said the City Deal is an absolute game-changer for Glenorchy.
“It tackles head on, the issues about transport and affordable housing which are current constraints on our community’s growth and wellbeing,” she said.
“I’m excited that through the City Deal the Glenorchy community will have the Northern Suburbs Rail Corridor activated as a priority. The activation will include the delivery of a rail passenger service on the rail corridor. For many years now, Glenorchy residents have known that it is a no-brainer to use the rail corridor for rail passenger services and finally governments have listened. It’s all aboard the 2023 Hobart to Granton service!
“The City Deal also provides the framework for urban renewal and infill along land adjacent to the rail corridor. Glenorchy residents can expect to see in the coming years significant changes as we work with the State and Federal Governments to provide greater housing options close to services, employment, and education. This goes a long way to addressing the current housing crisis and the gaps in housing supply and affordability. Densification of housing options will generate significant opportunities for economic growth and encourage businesses to come to Glenorchy and expand.
“Glenorchy City Council recognises that the City Deal is a once in a lifetime opportunity to change the lives of those in our community for the better through the catalytic investment in the northern suburbs rail corridor. That is why, even at this initial stage, we have committed to contributing over $10m to urban renewal projects which will complement and support the significant commitments made by the State and Federal Governments. Council looks forward to seeing both the State and Federal Governments likewise put their dollars on the table to fully fund their commitments in the coming months.
“This City Deal signals a bright future for Glenorchy. It says loud and clear to our community and the business and property development sector, that Glenorchy is the place to invest. By opening up the rail corridor investment opportunities abound as Glenorchy becomes a vibrant, liveable and connected global city.”

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  1. Rob Halton

    December 24, 2018 at 5:25 am

    Tom, of cause the 1970 city bypass plan no longer applies, the solution is now more complex behind the city, it requires the combination of modern road engineering crossing through difficult terrain with known geological fault lines using a combination of tunnels, bridged overpasses and open cut construction to achieve an alternative route to effectively bypass the city taking the likely route behind Knocklofty towards the western suburbs to link back onto the Brooker Highway.

    An ambitious project to say the least probably in the order of $2B with a 5 year lead time! But when one looks more closely at modern Europe, major roading expansion especially in countries like isolated towns up the coast of Norway, sea transport is being replaced by roads extensive tunneling engineering has come into its own as Tasmania is still drags its feet so far this century.

    It might take only one accidental runaway truck and its full loaded dog trailer careering down the steep Southern Outlet with a loss of braking power to wake up the State government up to its responsibility to look at the next stage of the road access that currently has no option other than pass through the city on its way to a predetermined destination.

    Most surprisingly none of the members for Franklin electorate over the passing decades have given any thought to a solution so far which should have been raised the issue before now, given the steady increase in traffic coming from the south of Hobart, more recently the volume of heavy traffic has risen significantly as massive development is taking place especially in Kingborough around the Greater Kingston area

    A few dills of political connections have occasionally mentioned the Plenty bypass road as an alternative, they cant be serious most have never traveled the route, its a misadventure in its own right for the average driver, being only suitable for log trucks on very specific cartage routes!

    The State Dept of Infrastructure Minister Courtney needs to form a professional committee to take on a serious survey of the Southern Outlet as a matter of priority to service all current and projected road vehicle movements re safe and practical movements on this section of roadway.

    It seems the government is only interested in the easy and straight foward stuff, continuing with the Midlands Highway,recent funding for a new Bridgewater bridge, recent upgrades on the Eastern shore near the Tasman and Bowen bridge, along the Brooker Highway at Elwick, the Kingston Bypass and Summerleas road link both onto the Southern Outlet.

    The Hodgman government are very dull overall and even its fire power Speaker Sue Hickey is unable to wake up the government up to itself before extended disfunction takes control!
    Health alone is in a mess, Uni Education is misguided by crowding the limited space of the city with more students accommodation, services and venues simply adding to extended periods of traffic congestion!
    A misguided and ugly Legacy bypass across the Tasman Highway, will limit cartage of ovesized and specialised heavy equipment on this route when required, where are the brains in government as there isnt any!

    Continuous fiddling around the edges with Light Rail is another misnomer, drop it please.

    Future planning around Greater Hobart is generally poor and remains uncoordinated as the region faces increased population growth!

    • Mike Seabrook

      December 24, 2018 at 1:24 pm

      priorities which are realistic and affordable. surely not a $50 million hunt for an endangered invisible fox and $ millions to exterminate a few mainland fruit flys ( qld?, south australian?, victoria?)

      $1.5 million for stage 1 of is it 5 stages for the st georges church, battery point – forget about praying to and appeasing the anglican god and the climate gods.

      merge the congregation with all saints church south hobart and flog st georges off to raise cash for church priorities

      escape route in hobart – burnett st-murray st-macquarie st + required extension of collins st from molle st to anglesea st – low cost

      in planning make provison for a busway -in 10 years time – bell st-brooker highway to elwick racecourse

      bridge risdon/brooker highway to geilston bay should have higher priority than bridgewater bridge

      suggest escape options on southern outlet between davey st and mount nelson- even if only for emergency/priority vehicles.

  2. Rob Halton

    December 22, 2018 at 1:07 pm

    According to a reliable local political source who is not a Liberal when I asked he said the bridgewater bridge is funded to go ahead but the “dickhead State government did not include for rail access in the design” he also agrees that NSLR to be really effective it requires access across the Derwent to the Brighton area. The 1942 bridge would become and historical icon and little else.

    In my opinion that is the death knell for NSLR for which I would have supported to be constructed in the future when nearby population blossoms.
    It is now becoming clearer that NSLR will never be financially supported by the Federal government, it once again becomes a pipe dream!

  3. Rob Halton

    December 20, 2018 at 3:53 am

    Tom, I would say it is more likely the new Bridgewater bridge is required to carry zillions times more persons including freight than any relatively useless little restricted Light Rail people mover which would now end at Granton with no hope of penetrating a greater peoples market in the future to the north at Brighton and beyond!

    Basically the new Bridgewater Bridge kills of any future viability for NSLR, the current population within the Western suburbs with too many living far distant from the linear route.

    No government should be promoting and financing what is essentially would be an expensive joy ride, as picking up some of Mona’s visitors now that Walsh’s Mona is in deep financial trouble, trading as Moorilla Estate recorded a loss of $23M on $32m in revenue in 2017-18. That followed a loss in the 2016-17 financial yeat of $18M on a revenue of $29M. it is understood last financial years figures will be lodged soon.

    As one of Hobarts main tourism draw card in the western suburbs could close its doors any day, then the NSLR route which is close to Mona as well as the ferries from the city all face an uncertain future!

    If the government is really on the ball with the GREATER HOBART CITY DEAL, the absolutely essential road transport and multi tasking personal vehicle movements then it would fund a survey given the take up of housing estates in these areas, for both the linking of Penna across to the Eastern outlet as well as the deviation of the Southern Outlet behind the city or the Tunnel option as a priority to vastly improve traffic flow and obvious population growth.

    So far the Tasmanian government and local councils are more interested in their internal politics and do not attempt to meld together with regards to a essentially workable and reasonably coordinated Greater Hobart region.

    Colonial isolation lingers heavily with a provincial mindset, little changes the Hodgman government and all previous governments essentially are not that far removed from the days of Governor Arthur’s administration of the British colony of van Diemans land.

    Everyone is expecting their slice of the pie as tourism continues to drive the State, but essential infrastructure to suit local needs comes first, particularly as people with means who visit Tasmania often decide to move here.

    • Tom Nilsson

      December 20, 2018 at 9:29 am

      Rob, on the specifics of the Bridgewater Bridge, and regardless of whether we have light rail or not, our governments are being extremely shortsighted.

      According to the current plans, a new 4-lane bridge will be complete by about 2025. By that stage four lanes will barely be enough to cope with the existing traffic and will in no way be fit for purpose to cope with the likely volume of traffic over the next 50 years. So either the government should build a 6 lane land bridge or it should build 4 traffic lanes and two rail lines, but the current plan is obviously inadequate.

      And by the way, a bypass around the back of Hobart might have been viable if it was built 30 years ago, but it’s completely impractical now because the area is too built up with housing.

      We need to start planning ahead, and not just catch up to the past.

  4. Tom Nilsson

    December 19, 2018 at 2:29 pm

    The overall cost of establishing light rail along the existing corridor is not that great – probably only about $200 millions dollars. This is because the corridor is already in place.

    Contrast this to the projected cost of a new Bridgewater bridge ($600 million) or a tunnel under Hobart ($1 billion). I’m not sure about the cost of making the Broker Highway 6 lanes out to Granton but my guess is that would probably cost at least a billion dollars also.

    Northern Suburbs rail actually makes economic sense!

  5. Rob Halton

    December 19, 2018 at 2:31 am

    Light rail remains as a pipe dream, it would require a significant population increases within the Western suburbs to ever justify such a move from vechicular/ bus transport onto LR!

    The question of justifying LR by providing affordable housing close to the linear route is another matter that will require a much more in depth study to see if intensive accommodation structures are socially acceptable as one heads towards the less affluent nature of the Western suburbs. Presumably this would mean knocking down parts of the older post war weather board housing estates created post WWII when the area provided sufficient employment given the light-medium industrial nature of the area.

    At the time housing was affordable most had a job for life and plentiful created through EZ Coy, Cadbury, Boyer(serviced by rail for workers), Titan, Namco, AGL Glass PMG workshops, HEC Workshops, Housing Dept workshops, PWD Workshops and numerous metal fabrication and furniture businesses.

    Many of these industries have either disappeared, replaced by privately owned retail or service sector, less manual labor is required, due to automation, more of those on welfare payments, under employed end up chasing part time work to survive and larger numbers of low skilled immigrants whose only hope is their children will enhance education and rise above their parents limitations.

    The only hope for Light rail to be viable in the future is for it to be extended to the Brighton area where it would service a growing population who have decided to seek out the more spacious and affordable lifestyle out from the city. Even then it has to be weighed up for commuters and shoppers who may wish to multi task using the motor car instead.

    Terminating at Granton makes the extent of LR virtually useless, for those travelling from the Derwent Valley to the city may as well continue their journey by car. The design of the proposed new Bridgewater bridge would limit LR unless the 1942 crossing is to remain in place!

    Consider the flexibility of a system of integrated road transport for provision of safe motorised cycle/bike transport lanes along main routes then across the Derwent River linking the under utilised Bowen Bridge using “Nippon Clipons”, same goes for the Tasman Bridge.

    Glenorchy Mayor Kristie Johnson needs to seriously consider what is “socially acceptable housing” for the future well ahead of any Light rail proposals as car and motorised cycle transport may be the the better option than either buses or Light rail.

  6. Tom Nilsson

    December 18, 2018 at 3:53 pm

    This is good, but the rail service should be Hobart to Brighton.

    The further it goes, the more economically viable it will be.

    • Mike Seabrook

      December 18, 2018 at 5:54 pm

      and in 10 – 15 years time – a busway along the brooker highway with underpasses at intersections – from bell st to elwick race course which should be relocated to seven mile beach or brighton.. cost of speeding up the old rail route with underpasses is horendous and will not happen

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