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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

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Dutton targets citizenships after Melbourne attack

Home affairs minister Peter Dutton has called for a re-examination of Australia’s citizenship process after Friday’s Bourke Street attack in Melbourne. Speaking on Sunday, Dutton said “there are some people [who] should not go on to become Australian citizens”. Hassan Khalif Shire Ali, who killed one person and injured several others in a knife attack, came to Australia with his family in the 1990s. Dutton also criticised Labor MP and counter-terrorism expert Anne Aly for calling prime minister Scott Morrison “politically desperate” for his comments following the attack. Dutton said the Labor MP wanted “to deny there’s a problem or suggest that this is not the problem people make it out to be” …

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  1. Rob Halton

    November 14, 2018 at 3:02 pm

    Russell, we are dealing with the present day, not the writings of the New Testament, Crusades and the Inquisition. Get with the times!

    It is Muslims who still use the ancient tradition of preferring blind faith to reality. Unfortunately for some, it is to commit wicked crimes against humanity! There is no future in that sort of behavior.

    Modern day Muslims living among the rest of us need to adjust to the times, obey Australian law, and respect others.

    • Russell

      November 15, 2018 at 7:01 am

      Do some research for once, Robin. Today’s problems are a direct result of the continuing Christian Crusades in a never-ending pursuit of wealth for the few. You are the one suffering from blind faith.

      What do you call what has happened in the Middle East since GW Bush, other than ‘wicked crimes against humanity’? And it’s still happening, Robin. As you said “There is no future in that sort of behavior.”

      It is people like you who “need to adjust to the times, obey Australian law, and respect others.”

  2. Rob Halton

    November 13, 2018 at 4:05 pm

    Hopefully the PM needs to engage directly with Islamic leaders, as it is they who do not appear to want to cooperate with the government or our police and border security forces.

    Coming from certain elements of the Muslim community, it seems as if it is a case of ‘damned if we do and damned if we don’t’ when it come to police involvement.

    My guess is the Muslims’ leaders and their flock, because of fervent religious beliefs, cannot allow issues with the Muslim brotherhood to go to police for help as radicalisation begins to take hold of individuals.

    It’s only a matter of time and there will be another event of murder and chaos in a crowded Australian city by another Muslim who is either under watch, or who has not been picked up because of lack of spirited cooperation coming from the Islamic community.

    People like Ann Ally, a former Canberra based security specialist and now an elected Labor member of Parliament from WA, has always been an odd ball character over many public interviews, one who continually edges around the conversations about Islamism and very rarely gives a clear answer and direction on how the government or the security forces should best deal with members or social groups who show signs of radical actions.

    Australians cannot help but show an air of mistrust towards Muslims unless their leaders are prepared to first of all cooperate with the government!

    If our PM can’t get an audience from the Muslims’ leaders then there is not much hope for many Muslims in our midst!

    • Russell

      November 14, 2018 at 7:39 am

      Hopefully the PM needs to engage directly with Christian leaders, as it is THEY who do not appear to want to cooperate with the community, or our police and other countries’ border security forces.

      The facts are that Christian leaders and their armies, because of fervent patriarchal religious beliefs since the writing of the New Testament, have been on one Crusade, Inquisition or another because they must not allow people of any other belief to exist or get in their way of plundering the world’s resources.

  3. Leonard Colquhoun

    November 12, 2018 at 12:02 pm

    I’ve been waiting for years for someone, anyone, in a position of leadership or authority to state this openly, forthrightly and fearlessly, with (current) PM Morrison declaring ” .. here in Australia, we would be kidding ourselves if we did not call out the fact that the greatest threat of religious extremism in this country is the radical and dangerous ideology of extremist Islam.” Notably, the (potential future) PM endorsed Morrison, but (quite predictably) omitted the I-word.

    As for the charge / sneer of ‘Islamophobia’, the base meaning of the medical suffix phobia is ‘fear’ of, and not ‘hatred’ of (which, of course, can be an effect of a strongly-held fear).

    Perhaps the silliest decision was the federal government decision to stop ‘our’ jihadist going off to martyr themselves for ISIS and its caliphate, with their passports being annulled as a consequence according to the laws against taking part in foreign wars.

    The Victorian Police seemed (as far as can be told) to follow their usual ‘watch and scratch my arse’ MO. It was gutsy individuals among We the People who stopped the ‘just watching’ and instead acted. For which, naturally, they were rebuked by their police commissioner. With such a force-free police ‘service’, how long before Melburnians start arming themselves?

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    • Simon Warriner

      November 12, 2018 at 4:08 pm

      Of course radical Zionism, which uses the Jewish lobby to persuade our political leaders and the leaders of our allies to get involved in wars in places we have no business being, has nothing to do with this. Wars like Iraq and Afghanistan. Wars like the so-called Syrian civil war. Wars like the one currently being stoked into being against Iran.

      Those wars engender lots of pissed of Muslim refugees, and those wars bleed our treasury of funds that could be put to far better use. And then there is the war on the Palestinians, conducted by snipers shooting unarmed protesters. While that goes on, and our government is seen to support Israeli violence, we make ourselves a bigger target than needs be the case, and for no discernible benefit.

      Google the Oled Yinon plan.

      That aside, radical islamism is a problem, as are all forms of religious zealotry.

      • George Smiley

        November 13, 2018 at 7:30 am

        Simon, Afghanistan is a strategic but otherwise worthless piece of ground that has been fought over from long before there was a modern ‘radical Zionism.’ But the idea of going back to their poor homeland wasn’t really so radical after the Spanish Catholic, Russian Tzarist then Communist and German pogroms and exterminations. They had been scattered to the four winds.

        After the Roman yoke fell away, the Medina Jews were executed in pits by by Mohamed’s triumphant army (and the remnant taxed for their faith like all infidels under the Islamic thumb). They had fled to now Iraq, Syria, Armenia and just about anywhere in Europe, to be swallowed up again by the Ottomans who were positive saints compared to the Christian Spanish Inquisitors. Even Mexican Jews were being burned alive.

        And like everyone else from the Aztecs to the Zulus, they have to have a strategy in the face of a population expanding beyond the carrying capacity of their lands.

        Here we are products of ‘Radical Anglicism’ .. and on it goes. Don’t be surprised when someone else in the world does crappy things. Necessity makes for ‘a hard world, and a man is damned lucky to get out of her alive.’

  4. Russell

    November 12, 2018 at 7:14 am

    Dutton should take much of the responsibility for any migrant problems as it is he and his Goverment who is completely responsible for the refugee situation and the mental anxiety problems they suffer caused by day after day, night after night, year after year bombings and harassment from the USA-led Christian crusades into the middle east for oil and drugs.

    • Leonard Colquhoun

      November 12, 2018 at 11:30 am

      Reply? Why bother?

      • Russell

        November 13, 2018 at 6:45 am

        If you studied your world history, Jewish doctrines and the Testaments properly Leonard, you would know about the Crusades and the Inquisitions and that just about every other war was started by CHRISTIANS, especially Catholics.

        I’m happy to debate you at any time with pure, provable fact .. even your own books, Leonard.

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