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‘The Saturday Briefing … ‘We know where the bodies are buried’’

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As Malcolm Turnbull stalled on a second leadership vote on Thursday, by demanding those betraying him identify themselves, some of his conservative colleagues were threatening to release damaging information about him to destroy his career.

“We are ready to open the bottom drawer,” a senior MP told The Saturday Paper. “We know where the bodies are buried.”

The brutal threat indicated the level of desperation that had been reached, as Turnbull’s opponents declared they had the numbers to force him out of office and he refused to go without a fight. The blunt warning also confirmed that the rebel conservatives had been planning and quietly organising their campaign against Turnbull for some time, and that they were determined not to stop until he was gone. Karen Middleton reports on the chaos in Canberra this week.

Plus: Paul Bongiorno on the collapse of the prime minister, Mike Seccombe on how climate change was Turnbull’s undoing once again, and Alex McKinnon on the further business links to the Barrier Reef …

Read more here

Guardian, Katherine Murphy: Scott Morrison faces uphill battle after Liberal party bloodbath New prime minister could accommodate Peter Dutton in government and does not rule out return of Tony Abbott …

ABC: Scott Morrison and Liberal Party tasked with reinstating public trust after leadership crisis As they return to their local electorates, Liberal politicians now have to explain this week’s events to voters …

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20 Comments

20 Comments

  1. Teresa Maddox

    August 26, 2018 at 7:52 pm

  2. Wining Pom

    August 26, 2018 at 3:17 am

    TGC … Yet again showing complete ignorance. It’s all over the news. Google ‘whatsapp bishop’ and you may get educated.

  3. TGC

    August 26, 2018 at 12:17 am

    “There were some nasty machinations against Julie Bishop within her Party to ensure Scomo stood against Dutton.”

    I never had #17 down as a Liberal Party insider .. just goes to show.

  4. Keith Antonysen

    August 25, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    #16, Trevor … you always look at the tip of the ice berg. There were some nasty machinations against Julie Bishop within her Party to ensure Scomo stood against Dutton.

    It is the public … who preferred Julie Bishop, as the references I provided showed ( #6 ). Scomo is a long way behind Bill Shorten in the polls.

    Elsewhere, I came across this post the Liberal Party madness:

    Position Vacant …
    Prime Minister of Australia.
    Applicants please note this is a casual position and all future vacancies will be selected from this selection process. Previous applicants need not apply.

    Also, on twitter:
    BREAKING NEWS.
    Australian Neurological Intensive Care Units agree to stop asking patients “who is the Prime Minister” to assess short term memory, as it has been deemed to be an unfair question.

    Rob, #9 … if you read The Australian you don’t get anything sensible in relation to climate change information:

    https://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/op-ed-in-the-australian-gets-nearly-every-fact-wrong-ian-plimer/

    Plimer is a Geologist, not a climate scientist, and makes the mistake of pushing water vapour as a primary greenhouse gas. It is very simple .. the amount of water vapour is in proportion to the amount of CO2. CO2 warms the atmosphere as the amount increases, which in turn allows more water vapour to be carried in the atmosphere.

  5. TGC

    August 25, 2018 at 8:06 pm

    #3 … “Julie Bishop was seen to be the best prospective Prime Minister by far ..
    “Inside information has it that she scored 11 votes!

    And that’s the same ‘inside information’ that has Scott Morrison being challenged sometime next week – or the week after – or sometime or other ..

  6. Keith Antonysen

    August 25, 2018 at 7:04 pm

    #9, Rob … To provide something to critique, here is just one example: https://www.ametsoc.net/sotc2017/StateoftheClimate2017_lowres.pdf

    Citing the complete report:
    Blunden, J., D. S. Arndt, and G. Hartfield , Eds., 2018: State of the Climate in 2017. Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., 99 (8), Si–S332, doi:10.1175/2018BAMSStateoftheClimate.1.

    I have other mega reports as well, but I have never seen one provided by contrarians.

  7. Keith Antonysen

    August 25, 2018 at 5:09 pm

    #9, Rob … I happen to believe in science, that’s what I continually quote. You apparently do not believe in science … please provide objective evidence that I’m wrong.

    In doing so you might like to comment on the state of sea ice north of Greenland, or provide data to show that no continent has been impacted by extreme conditions in 2018. Though happily it is unlikely that sea ice extent will set a record minimum in September 2018.

    https://www.ecowatch.com/arctic-sea-ice-melting-2597774041.html?utm_campaign=RebelMouse&socialux=facebook&share_id=3878107&utm_medium=social&utm_content=EcoWatch&utm_source=facebook

    Professor Mann has stated we are in a crisis situation going towards catastrophe.

    I have yet to view really compelling evidence that those promoting a contrarian view of climate change have any real arguments to support their views. You make many comments Rob, so must have compelling evidence … please provide your evidence. I do read references provided by contrarians and follow up. Your evidence would need to have a “doi” prefix in the url.

  8. Lynne Newington

    August 25, 2018 at 4:08 pm

    #8 … And as for ScoMo, as he stated on Annabel Crabb’s show, Kitchen Cabinet, he knows, or believes that his god helped his wife get pregnant.

    One or another of us can claim a “providential/God” influence at sometime or other in our lives, including myself .. but it’s certainly not a sign of preferential treatment.

    His child acting roles has certainly cemented a path in the flamboyant choice in a Pentecostal conversion and political life, just as it does with charismatics .. especially clergy.

    What amuses me is none of the murmurings conducive to the voice of Holy Spirit are breaking through amongst the congregations. It never mentions the hypocrisy within the church, foremost being crimes against children still coming to light from 50 years ago.

    Or then maybe it is .. there’s no time in eternity and coming back to haunt them.

  9. max

    August 25, 2018 at 3:21 pm

    # 9 … Scare campaigns by those acting as global good Samaritans plying on the wickedness of the naughty business of carbon emissions will play a much lesser role as the public accept the facts that the Australian government is more interested in those living in the real world, and not that of fairy tale dramas.

    Any one who can post this utter nonsense about climate change puts themselves in the tinfoil hat brigade.

  10. Rob Halton

    August 25, 2018 at 2:49 pm

    #10, Andrew Ricketts, not to the extent that it forces the nation to completely do away with coal YET!

    The “greener” choice at this moment for Australia would result in social disorder as power prices sky-rocket and become more unreliable.

    The economics don’t stack up either, business driven offshore to exploit poorer environmental controls, cheaper labour leaving Australians out of a job and reasonable lifestyle.

    I am probably greener than most as I do not support fracking on land to obtain gas, which in fact is far too expensive anyway.

    The best solution is to ensure base electricity is constant. More innovative additives such as multiple Renewables are welcome but cannot be relied on entirely with the exception of Hydro which has a limited capacity across the hostile dry Australian landscape.

    Rushing into the “greener choice” is not entirely practical. Victoria for example to sustain reliable electricity when summers hit 40 C. The Andrews government has wisely invested in diesel generators in readiness for such events.

    So much for the “green” revolution in energy which is failing us!

  11. Andrew Ricketts

    August 25, 2018 at 1:04 pm

    Climate change – a fairy tale drama?

    You cannot be serious, Halton #9!

  12. Rob Halton

    August 25, 2018 at 9:47 am

    Morrison is destined to outstrip Shorten of any credibility as a future PM, and it won’t take long either.

    #6 Antonysen, #4 Ricketts, and others if they are willing to expose themselves haven’t a hope as the Morrison-Frydenberg pair will easily convince the Australian public to support a NEG that first of all supports reliable energy, secondly gets the boots into the energy providers to ensure more affordable energy products are available throughout the nation.

    Scare campaigns by those acting as global good Samaritans plying on the wickedness of the naughty business of carbon emissions will play a much lesser role as the public accept the facts that the Australian government is more interested in those living in the real world, and not that of fairy tale dramas.

  13. Wining Pom

    August 25, 2018 at 2:24 am

    Goodness me, Keith. Facts getting in the way of TGC’s rants. So unfair.

    I’m not a fan of Julie Bishop, but as against the others, I honestly believe that she could have brought some unity. Well, from the public anyway.

    And as for ScoMo, as he stated on Annabel Crabb’s show, Kitchen Cabinet, he knows, or believes that his god helped his wife get pregnant.

    I know sometimes that spirits can cause pregnancy, if drank in good company and one thing leads to another .. nudge, nudge, say no more, but to honestly believe that there is something out there deciding what goes on is frightening. Will he appease that out there before us?

  14. Rob Halton

    August 25, 2018 at 2:03 am

    At the end of the day it was determined that the best for the nation was a team of two approach to save the from the lights going out as the energy crisis that we are facing has to be addressed by a combination hard won moderate right Coalition politics and face head on the harsh reality as the nations electricity is under threat from both the Left whether it be the States or Federal.

    Both the closure and anticipated closure(s) of coal fired power stations in SA, Vic and now NSW requires the urgent action of the moderate right, hence the team of two, Morrison as PM and Fryenberg as Deputy will see that an effective NEG will be the result of their efforts

    Both these leaders in Government will see Shorten wallow in his shallowness.

    Reliability of the grid will be the signature moment for the leader and his deputy who wont be put off by the usual scare campaigns!

  15. Keith Antonysen

    August 25, 2018 at 12:06 am

    #3, Trevor … Yes, you’re the fake news expert, aren’t you?

    You stated .. “Julie Bishop was seen to be the best prospective Prime Minister by far …”. Nonsense”

    http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/7713-better-pm-bishop-shorten-morrison-august-23-2018-201808231320

    Also, a poll was taken by the Daily Telegraph asking readers to show which Liberal they preferred as leader, and once again Julie Bishop was at the top of the list.

  16. TGC

    August 24, 2018 at 8:21 pm

    #2 …. “… will Malcolm Turnbull do the right and honourable thing for once in his life, and cross the floor to support it while he is still in Parliament?”

    If this is the only time in his life it seems a bit of a waste to use it on such a trivial matter when BS will do it anyway as soon as he becomes PM in 2019. Labor has always been very honourable on this issue of doubtful citizenship, and BS will reinforce that over Dutton.

    #3 … “Julie Bishop was seen to be the best prospective Prime Minister by far …”. Nonsense – a show pony with a grafted ‘phone. She wouldn’t be able to hack being stuck on economic/domestic matters when the world beckons her presence, and her standard of living pays mere lip service to ‘fighting global warming’.

    But she’ll be OK. When Labor is in next year they will give her a very cosy, and well-paid, overseas posting that will keep her and the mate in the sort of luxurious comfort in which they thrive.

  17. Andrew Ricketts

    August 24, 2018 at 5:40 pm

    Re post #1: When you consider the ability of politicians, it was indeed carefully scripted. Reconstructing this atrocious bloodbath merely as generational change is completely facile.

    Dutton was of course, unsaleable to any thinking Australian. He, Abetz and Abbott should all resign. Right now would be wise of them, were they to put their party first!

    Now, what do the Liberals stand for? New PM Morrison says: “We’re on your side” … “That’s what matters!” Suppose he should be held to account over that statement. Will PM Morrison be on your side if you are battling the effects of climate change? I doubt it.

  18. Keith Antonysen

    August 24, 2018 at 5:11 pm

    Newly elected Prime Ministers no longer have a honeymoon period. Social media is rife with attacks on Morrison. In relation to polls about who would be best new Prime Minister, Morrison was at the bottom of the pile. Julie Bishop was seen to be the best prospective Prime Minister by far, by Liberal and non-Liberal voters alike. Social media has been raising matters that Morrison had supported, or not supported. They do not gel well with a Prime Minister taking into account the views of voters.

    On climate change he supports coal mining, we might as well have a drover’s dog as PM.

    The Australian Financial Review suggests Morrison is not popular in New South Wales via an article written by Phil Coorey just prior to the leadership spill. Threats had apparently been made to tear Morrison apart by right wingers should he become Prime Minister.

    The Liberal Party now appears to be in a far worse mess than before the revolt.

    https://www.afr.com/opinion/rightwing-liberals-threaten-to-tear-scott-morrison-apart-20180823-h14e7m

  19. Russell

    August 24, 2018 at 2:45 pm

    Will Labor now again refer Dutton to the High Court, and will Malcolm Turnbull do the right and honourable thing for once in his life, and cross the floor to support it while he is still in Parliament?

  20. Teresa Maddox

    August 24, 2018 at 2:05 pm

    Dutton was never going to be new prime minister!

    This was a classic ‘good cop bad cop’ routine, and Dutton was only ever the fall guy so as to install the actual contender.

    Morrison’s fake support of Turnbull was obvious at the press conference where he professed his so-called allegiance to the PM, all the while conniving to be the next coalition leader.

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