Tasmanian Times

Economy

‘Government shuts down parliament amid leadership crisis – politics live’

*Satire: Leunig, http://www.leunig.com.au/ used with permission …

First published August 23

Labor’s Tony Burke has pounced on the decision, saying ‘there will be no question time today because they don’t know who their prime minister is’. All the day’s politics, live

Read more here

Guardian: Peter Dutton may not be eligible to sit in parliament, Labor’s legal advice says Liberal leadership challenger’s interests in childcare centres could be in breach of section 44, leading barrister says

Kym Goodes, CEO TasCOSS: TasCOSS comment on Federal Leadership issue

Jane Salmon: Human Rights Abusers Lead the Field For National Leadership

Students and community groups call protest against Liberal leader

Author Credits: [show_post_categories parent="no" parentcategory="writers" show = "category" hyperlink="yes"]
17 Comments

17 Comments

  1. max

    September 8, 2018 at 3:25 pm

    Look at history and you may protect the future. In 1938 Robert Menzies was given the name of ‘pig iron Bob’ for his fight with the unions to supply pig iron to Japan, while Australia was under the threat of war with Japan.

    Although there is no talk of war with Indonesia, we know it has expansionist pressures .. and where can they expand to? We let them expand into West Papua, and that could be a closer base for further expansion.

    This latest wonderful Free Trade deal .. what will it do for us? Will it let us build our country into a super power, or will it build up Indonesia into a super power? If Indonesia’s expanding population and its military power, where can it go? Perhaps we can redraw the Brisbane line .. something that Menzies was alleged to have drawn up to appease Japan.

    Free trade has had a negative effect for Australia. We have gone from being a prosperous industrial country with almost no unemployment, to a country dependent on free trade and imports. We have traded Australia’s independence into a country that relies on others for our very survival, and free trade has allowed countries that were no threat into countries that can take away that survival.

  2. Rob Halton

    September 4, 2018 at 1:51 am

    Unfortunately, Morrison’s successful trade trip to Indonesia has immediately been overshadowed by Dutton’s au pair scandal.

    Morrison needs to distance himself from potential fall guy Dutton, who will eventually have to forfeit his Ministry.

    Not a good look for Morrison either, who should distance himself from Dutton’s folly.

    My view is that if Morrison continues to back Dutton that nothing is wrong then we could see a no-confidence motion against the government passed in the Parliament within the next few weeks.

    For the government to remain, Morrison must distance himself from Dutton who is now seen as one of the worst Liberal politicians of all time, the absolute worst choice for PM, and now the worst choice for remaining in Parliament.

    Morrison could find himself as a short term PM with a Federal election thrust upon the nation before Christmas.

  3. Rob Halton

    September 3, 2018 at 3:09 am

    #14 … William, we should give Morrison some credit for his instant ” quick fix” trip to Indonesia to ensure our trade ties are secure and most are tariff free!

    I think there is another message although it is hidden, for China not to build up too many hopes as a global leader who wants a slice of everything especially preying on countries that carry debt ie Pacific Island nations and parts of Africa.

    The meeting between Scomo and Yoko hopefully involve trusting international ties between the two countries which should continue enjoy their own complete soverigenity without outside foreign interference.

    I would expect that Indonesia is that essential buffer between us and Chinese expansion in the Pacific – SE Asian region.

    It sems to me Australia should be on the cusp of dimishing Chinese ownership within Australia and we must get our house in order by recreating own economic nationalism before it is too late.

    We can choose who we trade with, have joint military exercises with as we are running very close to another go at our own new world order.

    This could be the very difference with turnbull who was too soft with China, perhaps Bishop may have also been to soft by dwelling to much on her foreign diplomacy image now I am hopeful that the Morrison underneath is the tough guy to restore Australians faith in our political system to at least protect the nation from economic predation that can steadily worsen into claims for ownership of our assets.

    At the end of the day its our national security that counts!

  4. William Boeder

    August 26, 2018 at 12:47 am

    #13 … Mike, even better if we could eject the cultists out of our country.
    The snivellers among them that call on Eric to see to their feeding from the Aussie taxpayer purse while not contributing anything of benefit in their being permitted to dwell like an unwanted pollutant in the midst of our Nation of States and Territories.
    Anybody up for some Hillsong happy-clapping in return for providing taxpayer revenues to this corporatised cultist blight upon Australia? (Scott Morrison’s preferred spiritual mentor.)

  5. Mike

    August 24, 2018 at 1:53 pm

    There is not a lot of difference between people’s belief in Government, and the way a cult works.

    Children are forcefully indoctrinated at a young age to believe there are no other alternatives. You wouldn’t like to live in Russia would you? They only have one brand of baked beans!

    The main difference is that sooner or later cult members wake up to the fact that their leader isn’t actually the second coming of Jesus, and the cult starts to fall apart.

    Government is future proofed against that kind of problem by creating a near identical set of parties that people get to “vote” for.

    Of course by the time the next election comes around, they have forgotten that all the other parties have been just as diabolical, and they are no better off than the cult with the self chosen leader.

    Only solution is to leave the cult, and stop believing.

  6. TGC

    August 23, 2018 at 6:08 pm

    #11 … More/other/different fascists.

  7. Chris

    August 23, 2018 at 12:29 pm

    #8 … “But listen, and try and listen carefully .. the Liberals need to regroup. It will be a pity to lose Malcolm, but the Liberals need to kick out Abbott, Abetz and Dutton and attract the oncoming younger generation of Liberals of lesser conservative values, and who will go along by moving with the times.”

    When the civil war ends there will be two “Liberal?” parties .. the fascist extreme right and the greedy IPA/left?

    Either way we lose.

    Don’t forget vote below the line and exclude the ticket wrangler altogether. One Abetz has gone .. now the other’s turn is nigh.

  8. TGC

    August 23, 2018 at 12:11 pm

    #6 “… Any guesses at the likely reasons?”
    Hardly. ‘Reasons’ suggests logic – and there is no logic in politics.

  9. Ted Mead

    August 23, 2018 at 11:58 am

    #8 – Blind old Robin simply doesn’t see the bigger picture!

    The Libs have just voted themselves out of office for a couple of terms at least!

    Australians won’t elect the vacuous cadaver Dutton, nor the frigid insensitive Bishop. So that leaves them with Morrison who forever will be watching his back from the extreme right wing likes of Abbott, Abetz and Dutton.

    I’m not a great Bill Shorten fan but it looks like his day has come.

    At least he will encourage renewables over coal, attempt to do something on the Great Barrier Reef, stop live exports, tax big carbon polluting industries, ban super trawlers, and you never know maybe even lock some more Tassie forests up.

    The long–overdue Liberals demise has begun.

  10. Rob Halton

    August 23, 2018 at 3:14 am

    #1 … Now, now Mr Hawkins, please come to your senses and think this through carefully. Steady there, as I imagine that you are a rusted on left winger and Australia cannot possibly survive on left wing anything! We have to be so careful with left wingers as we do with ones from the extreme right wing! You know we have to find the right balance!

    Ultimately Turnbull will go as PM. There is now a question about that, although I think that he has been too soft, but I am absolutely sure that Dutton must not be PM under any circumstances!

    A real win for my moderate right wing Qld girl friend Pauline who will benefit from this mess to which Abbott has contributed!

    I will tell you now and offer you a reasonable outcome: I am hopeful that it will be Julie Bishop as PM and Scott Morrison as Deputy. That would be a good combination of those who are not of the higher right wing nature.

    But listen, and try and listen carefully .. the Liberals need to regroup. It will be a pity to lose Malcolm, but the Liberals need to kick out Abbott, Abetz and Dutton and attract the oncoming younger generation of Liberals of lesser conservative values, and who will go along by moving with the times.

    Now Malcolm did manage to investigate the foul practices of the banks and the superannuation industry, and I think that this should continue under the incoming regime!

    A drop beyond the cut-off point for Liberal numbers could also bring on a fresh election. Bill Shorten as PM would be suicide for Australia.

    If Albanese was to challenge Shorten it would be a different story as Albo is a mature and solid contender. Shorten is only a soap box stooge, and generally a short term disappointment to all those around him.

    Remember that Turnbull has been considered as the better PM for most of the News polls, but in my opinion he is still too soft .. and I have said this continually for some time now!

    Be careful how you sum things up Bob. You need to look at the best of balance as we should with everything with modern Australia. For example immigration numbers versus sustainable population. Better spread into regional Australia to lessen the impact on big cities. Energy is a big ticket item and we will need to obtain the best balance between fossil fuels and Renewables. We need both. Foreign ownership is an enormous issue .. as is national security!

    You are mature enough to grasp at reality and not fluff along with fantasy!

  11. Lynne Newington

    August 23, 2018 at 2:35 am

    If Labor ends up in government, survivors of abuse will be happy to be rid of Dan Tehan who capped the Redress Scheme payout from $200,000 down to $150,000 thereby saving the Catholic Church millions.

    Also on the list that need to be addressed …

    Care Leavers Australian Network: “Abuse survivors have been shocked to learn that the intimate details they included in their applications for redress are to be shared with the offending institutions.”

  12. Luigi

    August 23, 2018 at 1:02 am

    #3 … Yes, TGC. A Labor government seems inevitable, doesn’t it?

    Any guesses at the likely reasons?

  13. TGC

    August 23, 2018 at 12:03 am

    #1″…has been ripping off the public purse and, therefore, is not entitled to sit in the Federal Parliament)”– as did quite a number of others.
    You must have been away.

  14. Chris

    August 22, 2018 at 11:41 pm

    IPA, News Corp, Shy News and Fox or Murdock rules, Hooray?

  15. TGC

    August 22, 2018 at 8:32 pm

    We’ve had cacocrcy for so many years now- at least 20- that we’ve become attached to it.
    And if (when) government changes in 2019- it will merely intensify.

  16. Luigi Brown

    August 22, 2018 at 7:34 pm

    I can hardly wait for the election campaign in which the Liberals tout their great achievements, their stability and their grasp of the principles of good governance.

    What a rock show.

  17. Bob Hawkins

    August 22, 2018 at 5:55 pm

    REMEMBER 1933! At midday today, it became apparent that, for the first time in Australia’s history, not one but two legalised abusers of refugee children (also human-rights violators) would be vying for the nation’s leadership.
    Thank goodness a general election is just around the corner: should the unthinkable happen and we end up, soon after noon tomorrow, with either PM Dutton or PM Morrison, an early election will give decent-thinking voters a chance to kill off the political careers of both Scott Morrison and Peter Dutton (unless, of course, the Solicitor-General’s opinion tomorrow is that the latter has been ripping off the public purse and, therefore, is not entitled to sit in the Federal Parliament).
    We live in not just interesting times; they are terrifying times: we teeter on the brink of a fascist government. It’s time for the federal Liberal MPs to demonstrate that their Nazi infiltrators are not going to be allowed to dictate the party’s philosophical direction. They will be able to do that at tomorrow’s party meeting at noon, about the time that the pathetic Malcolm Turnbull says he will step down as PM. If Turnbull’s last shot can bring his party to its senses, at last he will have engineered one useful thing in his disastrous career as our national leader.

You must be logged in to post a comment Login

Receive Our Weekly Tas Roundup

Copyright © Tasmanian Times. Site by Pixel Key

To Top