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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

Economy

Lisa’s Cop This! to Labor Central

Tasmanian Labor senator Lisa Singh is poised to pull off an unprecedented victory, claiming a seat ahead of fifth placed John Short, who was listed above her on the party’s Senate ticket.

The Senate count in Tasmania is still underway, but analysts are now confident Labor will win five seats.

Senators Anne Urquhart, Helen Polley and Carol Brown have been returned.

The most likely combination for the final two places is for incumbent senator Catryna Bilyk to finish fourth, and Senator Singh fifth — even though Senator Singh was sixth on Labor’s list in Tasmania.

(Polling analyst) Dr (Kevin) Bonham said the most likely scenario was for the Liberals to win four seats in Tasmania, the Greens two, and the Jacqui Lambie Network one.

Read the full story, ABC HERE

Dr Kevin Bonham’s website HERE

• Chris in Comments: Wed 20th July 4.30pm. Lisa Singh 12,542. Seems to be the highest vote cast in the Senate in Tasmania. Congratulations, Labor ignore her honesty and popularity at your peril, next time there is no doubt that she deserves top spot on her ability to get the 5th seat for the Labor Party. Six year term for her too – Senate, take note, we are watching. As we know ABBA (Any Body But Abetz) had great influence along with the hatred and dislike that everyone had for this manipulator of the Liberal Party in Tasmania BOTH state and federal, where he is well past his prime and influence …

Matt Denholm, The Australian: Tasmanians defy major parties’ tickets in Senate vote Tasmanians have delivered a significant slapdown to the Labor and Liberal party machines, voting in large numbers to circumvent party Senate tickets and potentially deliver upset results. Labor senator Lisa Singh is on track to retain her seat, despite being dumped by her party to the usually unwinnable No 6 spot on the ALP ticket, after receiving at least 12,542 below-the-line votes. … On the Liberal side, former federal tourism minister Richard Colbeck — demoted to No 5 on the Liberal ticket after an alleged preselection clash with powerbroker Eric Abetz — received at least 8105 below-the-line votes …

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11 Comments

11 Comments

  1. Bazabee

    July 24, 2016 at 5:37 pm

    I have just had a quick look at the AEC web page where it is looking more and more likely that Richard Colbeck will get a gurnsey as will Nick Mc Kim.

    How can this be? Because the ALP’s right faction time serving hack the lack lustre Senator from Kingston, Senator Katrina Bilyk is falling behind as the last few preferences are distributed that’s how.

  2. TGC

    July 23, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    Doggone …
    It would appear Lisa Singh suffered the same fate as Richard Colbeck- not yet ‘in’ so left out.
    But Tasmania was ‘rewarded’ appropriately under the ‘almost victorious but don’t let a defeat worry us’ Bill Shorten- Julie Collins looking after the ‘Ageing’ and Carol Brown the ‘Disadvantaged’

  3. bazzabee

    July 23, 2016 at 2:24 am

    #3,6 & 8 In all the years I have ben reading your slavish Liberal waffle I can’t recall you ever responding to an adverse comment before. Maybe i just never read one who knows? But you have responded to my comment and I will wear it as a badge of pride, if only for a very short time; ….. there that’s more long enough as I have a number of kittens to train in the use of a kitty litter tray!

  4. TGC

    July 22, 2016 at 5:20 pm

    #6 Except he’s not “my mate” – not my electorate -and if he had been I would have been voting for a government not necessarily a Member.

  5. Geoffrey Swan

    July 22, 2016 at 12:24 am

    You got my vote Lisa.. even though I was extremely disappointed with your passive involvement during the two day public Senate Inquiry into Fin Fish Aquaculture.

    With the issues now coming up around Okehampton Bay and now Storm Bay… and the recent discharge of fish pond effluent into the Huon River from the Huon Aquaculture hatchery in Ranelagh… perhaps the chickens are now coming home to roost over the political outcome of this inquiry.

  6. Bazzabee

    July 22, 2016 at 12:07 am

    #3 TGC asks “what has Lisa Singh achieved during all her years in parliaments?’

    Ok it’s a fair question and I do have an answer. But please let me expand the question a little to – what has Lisa Singh achieved that the three amigos didn’t?

    Answer: she ‘survived and prospered’ which oddly enough is the same answer that Tallyrand great French foreign minister gave when asked what he did during the French revolution. Long may the political tumbrels role down George Street.

    PS
    Dear Trevor even you must admit it’s bloody hard to achieve anything if you don’t survive the election? And it doesn’t matter how much your mate Nikolic rages against the voters of Bass, I for one (and I know I’m not alone) couldn’t be happier that Mr NeoNasty didn’t survive the voters of Bass.

  7. Mike Adams

    July 21, 2016 at 9:12 pm

    No. 3
    Lisa Singh earned support among many voters by abstaining when the pulp mill vote was taken. It was probably this action that earned her the dislike of the unions and her consequent demotion.

  8. Brian P.Khan

    July 21, 2016 at 8:01 pm

    Both Labor and Liberal parties selection committees are in the bunker with tin helmets on.

    Tony Rundle and Robin Gray should be commended for speaking out about pre – selection of Senator Colbeck to number 5 on the Liberal ticket which has cost Tasmania a seat in a Turnbull cabinet.

    The Lance Barnard Mafia in Launceston headed by Basil Fitch campaigned to have Lisa elected and also advised Liberal members and supporters to vote below the line for Colbeck , a strong message for democracy.

    Interesting to note Lisa has 15,700 votes at the time of writing and Colbeck over 10,000 .

    Labor,s high flying charterer of aircraft between Launceston and Hobart Helen Polley has 1,475 votes below the line , the electorate has spoken Senator Polley and you should consider resigning the electorate have compared you to Bronwyn Bishop for her excess of entitlements and bullying of former staff members ,Bill Shorten would not intervene for Lisa and stood behind Senator Polley , he should now apologise and ensure Lisa is given a 6 year term,
    Senator Lambie has over 8,000 votes and a total 27,000 Senator Lambie has been commended by former Victorian Premier Jeff Kennett for the support she is giving to our veteran service men.

  9. TGC

    July 21, 2016 at 7:03 pm

    Whilst Lisa Singh is no less ‘votable’ than any of the others in the Labor Senate team- neither can she be described as ‘outstanding. Whatever the final outcome Lisa Singh scored substantially from the sympathy vote amongst Labor voters- and maybe a few non-Labor -who took exception to the way in which the ‘machine’ shuffled her to the bottom of the ticket.
    Because of the strict caucusing in Labor politics Lisa Singh – as the others- really can’t express much outside what the leadership team decides and she must strive for her point of view to prevail within that leadership group- not to say it’s much different with the Coalition.
    Ask “what has Lisa Singh achieved during all her years in parliaments?’- probably not much but neither have many others- again not just in Labor-nor the Coalition for that matter.
    Astonishingly some ‘independents’ are elected to the Senate- without voters having the foggiest idea what their attitude to a range of important domestic and international issues might be.
    “I will treat each measure as it comes along” is a very unreliable basis on which to decide to elect a person to Parliament.

  10. Chris

    July 19, 2016 at 8:50 pm

    Wed 20th July 4.30pm
    Lisa Singh 12542
    Seems to be the highest vote cast in the Senate in Tasmania.
    Congratulations, Labor ignore her honesty and popularity at your peril, next time there is no doubt that she deserves top spot on her ability to get the 5th seat for the Labor Party.
    Six year term for her too – Senate take note we are watching.

    As we know ABBA (Any Body But Abetz) had great influence along with the hatred and dislike that everyone had for this manipulator of the liberal Party in Tasmania BOTH state and federal, where he is well past his prime and influence.

    Get a sack from MT.
    ABBA Any Body But Abetz in the state parliament in person or influence.
    Will are you willing to listen?
    Keep Nick Or Lick out too.
    Advance Tasmania FAIR.

  11. Karl Stevens

    July 19, 2016 at 1:52 pm

    I also voted below the line for Lisa before the rest of the ALP team so a good outcome.

    I would like to talk about the rise of Pauline Hanson because there is nowhere on TT to do that.

    On Q&A last Monday Senator Sam Dastyari told Senator Hanson he was a Moslem. This was supposed to be a ‘gotchya’ moment for Hanson who sailed through it.
    I looked at Dastyari’s Wikipedia page to see what was really going on.

    Born in Iran, Sam Dastyari’s parents were ‘student activists in the 1979 Iranian revolution’. This revolution installed an Islamic religious government in Iran and by 1988 they were hanging intellectuals from cranes in the streets. That was the year 5 year old Sam Dastyari was bought to Australia.
    So what’s Dastyari’s real message about Islam?
    He had an Islamic state in Iran but his family still had to flee. Why?

    We are seeing total hypocrisy on the question of terrorism I believe.
    All Australians have lost almost all of their privacy and security because of a single derivative religious doctrine that has no interpersonal boundaries. It is illegal to even ridicule this sick doctrine. Why?
    The so-called ‘prophets’ were just an early version of Nigerian scammers in my opinion, the whole bloody lot of them including JC. They are just historical curiosities. Because of our ultra dumbed-down political system, we are all put under surveillance at airports, in the street and on the internet because somebody wrote a text dictated to them by angels 8 centuries ago WTF?
    Today this so called ‘prophet’ would be on anti-psychotic medication and thats a fact.

    And now the followers of Australian pop politics attack Hanson who is only trying to maintain the ‘Happy Days’ of an Australia that lived in prosperity and without fear.

    Meanwhile both major parties continue to nurture corruption in countless ways. Look at how they lavish tax dollars on the Asian Timber Mafia that makes veneer in Tasmania? Hanson is anti-corruption apparently. This is going to get interesting…

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