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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. No price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

John Hawkins

Abetz, Integrity and the Law revisited

The letter from Sunny Fitz Nead posted on Tasmanian Times on 14/08/2010 at 12:14pm ( Comment 19 on the article, Abetz, Integrity and the Law, HERE ) poses some very interesting questions:

1. Is it within the law for an Electoral Officer to alter or add to a nomination form submitted by a “Minister/Senator” or for that matter any other candidate; once the nomination form is submitted surely the candidate loses control of the contents, if not he must surely make the alterations in his own hand.

2. Further if the alteration is incorrect does this invalidate the nomination form.

3. Who instructed or what communication or records are there between Abetz and the AEC to allow this alteration to be made to his nomination form, a form presumably already submitted under his signature.

4. Is the number T02078616 his Electoral Roll number? if so, this is not available to the general public. From where and by whom was it obtained and why is this numerical addition to the nomination form not initialled?

5. When was the numerical addition added:
a) was it done after the receipt of the nomination form by the AEC and before the nominations were declared and was it done at the request of a Minister of the Crown to legalize the document?
b) was it done after nominations were declared, as a result of an observation by a bystander when the nomination forms were publicly displayed and before the election was held to legalise the document.
c) was it done after Abetz was elected to legalise the document.
d) was it done to satisfy my enquiry over nomination forms to legitimize the document, but only to the photocopy and not the original?

6. Is the nomination form as submitted by Abetz and now altered by the AEC invalid?

7. Is this now a Federal Police matter when the Electoral Office tampers with a candidate’s nomination form, and will it involve parties other than the AEC.

8. Tasmanian Times readers with expertise in this matter should feel free to comment.

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Earlier:
Abetz, the Senate and the Court of Disputed Returns

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8 Comments

8 Comments

  1. Dr Kevin Bonham

    August 18, 2010 at 3:00 am

    Re #7, actually if you put Abetz last you don’t have to mark his box at all. Though I would advise against such an action – I am reserving that place for Guy Barnett!

  2. Simon Patrick

    August 18, 2010 at 1:13 am

    I have to select the excreble mans name on my ballot paper. I would prefer not to mark his name at all. All power to your arm John

  3. tswanson

    August 17, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    This is not a trivial matter. Surely many recall Rupert Murdoch having to relinquish Australian citizenship to enable him to increase his media share in the US. Arnie cannot run for President of the US due to not being born there. Abetz was undoubtedly aware of the legal requirements and has seemingly failed to satisfy them. Do we really want our law makers treating the law with contempt?

  4. Steve

    August 17, 2010 at 2:00 am

    Whilst I agree with 1 -4 as to the nit-picking nature of this, I can’t agree that it’s not a legitimate pursuit.
    John Hawkins initially approached the Senate in what appears to have been a courteous way. They could have engaged with him and put this matter to bed a long time ago. They did not, and referred him to the correct channels. He is now using the correct channels and more power to his elbow.
    Erich Abetz is a senator and a lawyer. His various paperwork should be immaculate. If not, he should be held to account for it.
    Spoke to someone yesterday who was fined because their registration sticker was expired. They’d paid it, had the sticker with them, but they hadn’t stuck it on the windscreen. Too bad! Why should Senators be exempt from the letter of the law?

  5. Tom Barton

    August 16, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    John H. of Chudleigh: apply your talents and determination to fighting Abetz in a more constructive manner, e.g. based on what he says rather than his origins as a child and possibly poorly-managed naturalisation paperwork. I reckon he’ll actually gain a bit of cred from your harassment of him. He certainly doesn’t deserve much cred so don’t give him that opportunity by nitpicking to the extent you have been doing for quite a while now.

  6. Ron

    August 16, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    I agree with post #2. This is nothing and will go nowhere. But hey, knock yourself out.

  7. DaveHBt

    August 16, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    While I hold no brief for the man and even less, if that’s possible, for the senator this really is clutching at straws in a big way.

  8. Bart Jackson

    August 16, 2010 at 5:57 am

    I don’t think the T<> notation is anything all that unusual in terms of how AEC staff add to forms. They seem to do it all the time to other people’s electoral forms.

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