Tasmanian Times


Yes Mr Gay (4): FSC bid

Tasmania’s Primary Industries Minister has taken a swipe at pulp mill opponents after returning from Japan on a mission to stimulate the state’s woodchip exports.

The Minister, David Llewlleyn, was in Japan for two and half days of business meetings.

He visited six woodchip companies, including Nippon Paper, to promote Tasmania’s woodchip industry.

Mr Llewellyn says the demand has dropped off considerably because of a downturn in the Japanese paper market and a campaign of misinformation being pedalled to customers.

He says opponents of a Tamar Valley pulp mill have been hurting business.

“I wanted to give them the assurances of government that our practises here are the best in the world,” he said.

“I’ve informed them that we will actually be seeking, and I’ve asked Gunns and I’ve asked Forestry Tasmania to seek certification under the Forest Stewardship Council as well, the FSC and allegations and accusations about us not dealing with wood in a proper way will be put to bed.”

Mr Llewellyn says he did not meet any potential financiers for the Gunns mill.

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  1. sanguine

    January 25, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    My, Oh my… what a tangled web they weave..we don’t want or need FSC.. Oh yes, we do now… otherwise we can’t sell woodchips or get the pulp mill deal up…and now we don’t know what to do…plantation timber and woodchips anyone from ‘world’s worst practice’?

  2. max

    January 25, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Contrary to what the leaders of the LibLabs, Hodgman and Bartlet claim Tasmania will never have a sustainable forest industry while immature potential saw logs can be chipped. The next step in the stupidity of the present forest practises, that are having trouble selling chips that cannot get FSC certification will be to burn them in wood fired power stations. No matter what claims are made, wood fired power stations can not operate at a profit by burning plantation timber. There is little or no residue available from plantations and to burn the trees would put the cost of power beyond a realistic price

  3. pilko

    January 25, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    So now the challenge is for FT and Gunns to nobble FSC. This should be fun to watch.

  4. salamander

    January 25, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    After watching Hans Drielsma on ABC TV, I have realised the monumental stupidity of FT. They seem to think the Forest Stewardship Council will fall on their knees and bless the current process! They have no idea what real “best practice” means, or indeed what the compliance requirements are, so no doubt we will get a massive backdown on the promise to get this certification.

  5. Rod

    January 25, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Tasmania should have the best and most profitable timber industry in the World.

    Our timbers would sell for a fortune anywhere that superb wood is recognised.

    Unfortunately, the current bunch in charge are in it for the fastest buck and not long term. It can only be described as assett-stripping.

    Current politicians are in the same category. Is it too much to hope for real change in March? I fear so.

  6. salamander

    January 25, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    Llewellyn should be forced to accept that this government has caused massive damage to the state and the forestry industry, through dodgy practices. It is not world’s best practice, how can it be when it doesn’t meet world standards?

    He says the “allegations and accusations … will be put to bed” – what about the facts and evidence? What about the backroom deals and self-interest? Don’t mention those, because they all show the pulp mill project for what it is, a dirty deal.

  7. David Mohr

    January 25, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Will Hodgman has hitched his wagon to the status quo. On the news tonight he said, “sustainable, world’s best, locking up etc” He wants this point of difference to garner “pro forestry” votes.

  8. Ian Rist

    January 25, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    The Japanese are not the only ones that are onto him………

  9. pat synge

    January 25, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
    Llewellyn says “I wanted to give them the assurances of government that our practises here are the best in the world” – I ‘wanted to’ but couldn’t because they aren’t.

    To get FSC certification a number practises will have to change and this will be distinctly unpalatable to the head honchos of both FT and Gunns.

    The FSC is not squeaky clean but it’s the best certification organisation that currently exists and this may be a great step forward in the whole Forestry Debate.

    We’ve already seen attempts to infiltrate FSC in order to water down their standards and no doubt this strategy will continue. FSC must be kept under pressure from the community not to let this happen. As members of FSC Timber Workers for Forests is one group in Tasmania that will be keeping a close eye on developments in this area.

    We want a timber industry here in Tasmania that we can be proud of. A timber industry that maintains our valuable forest resources for their multiple values – harvesting the interest while maintaining and increasing the capital.

    Forestry workers should be allowed to be proud of their work and not have to constantly lie about what they are actually doing.

  10. Mike Adams

    January 25, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    And there is NOTHING in that reported speech to say what other business than Gunns is being hurt. So for whose interests is he working?
    Oh all right: make up your own lists.

  11. Jack Nimble

    January 25, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    This mob of DICKHEADS would’nt know what FSC certification was if it bit them on the arse.

    The sooner this Gunnerment and Gunns go belly up the better this state will be for everyone.

  12. Pete Godfrey

    January 25, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    So far the only mis information I have heard or seen being peddled is that of the Government and the industry. Fortunately the Japanese have gone beyond the blind belief in spin and can read for themselves and make up their own minds as to what is worlds best practice.
    And it is definitely not practiced here, the proof being that Llewie has told Gunns and FT to get certified under the FSC.

  13. john Hayward

    January 25, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    In his inimitable style, Llewy omitted the fact that even sham scientific whalers now find Tassie logging too smelly to touch, even at harpoon’s length

    Aided, admittedly, by a perfectly flat EEG, he didn’t even blush when claiming that Tassie logging practices are the world’s best.

    John Hayward

  14. Leah

    January 25, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    What an idiot Llewellyn is. Does he not credit the Japanese with any sort of intelligence? Of course they know our practices are not ‘best in the world’. Why else would they ask for FSC?
    And to blame pulp mill opponents for loss of business? Sorry, but the finger should be firmly pointed at Gunns and the State Government. Their never ending lies and dodgy deals turn any sensible, half decent, company away.

  15. Mike Adams

    January 25, 2010 at 11:59 am

    Someone tell him how to spell ‘practices.’ And there’s gerund left orphaned there too. (Us not dealing…)
    Let’s hope his Japanese was better than his English.

  16. pilko

    January 25, 2010 at 11:49 am

    You idiot Llewelyn.

  17. amyb

    January 25, 2010 at 10:30 am

    Maybe Llewellyn could have saved us the cost of his trip had he actually got out into the forests and seen for himself the “best in the world” practices being inflicted onto our old forests by the “scientists” and managers at Forestry Tasmania and Gunns, rather than just taking the advice of vested mouthpieces as gospel as to what’s going on.

    Please visit the Weld, Styx or Upper Florentine valleys and see the latest coupes to be attacked last year for confirmation of this, David. Forestry Tasmania/Gunns DO still CLEARFELL old forests. Just because they say they don’t doesn’t mean they don’t. CLEARFELLING old forests is NOT world’s best practice, nor is cable logging, high-intensity waste burn-offs, 1080 baiting of native wildlife or mono-culture replacement planting of native forests.

    The only misinformation being fed the Japanese is what spews forth from your’s, Gay’s and Gordon’s mouths, and it appears that the Japanese have finally cottoned on to that fact. Hallelujah.

  18. steve

    January 25, 2010 at 10:00 am

    I need a trailer load of F.S.C.chips for my garden willing to pay BIG $$$$ anybody know where i can get some?.

  19. Russell

    January 25, 2010 at 9:55 am

    “Mr Llewellyn says he did not meet any potential financiers for the Gunns mill.”

    You can’t meet someone who doesn’t exist.

    Llwellyn, Gordon and Gay home with their tails between their legs. I guess they thought they would be in good company, with the Japanese Government-backed whale resource plundering going on.

  20. Dave Groves

    January 25, 2010 at 9:32 am

    Lewy, you utter the words of a spoiled child.

    “He says opponents of a Tamar Valley pulp mill have been hurting business”.

    Do you really believe this?

    You travel to Japan to assure Japanese that the clearefell shite that carries on here in Tassie is ridgy didge, at the same time insulting their intelligence with your above statement.

    Are the Japanese blind and stupid?

    It appears that is your assumption.

    How can we possibly have the best “practices in the world”, when we don’t even have the most basic of certification?

    As for the assurances of government….good god Lewy….you really have lost the plot.

  21. steve

    January 25, 2010 at 8:55 am

    Turn dogshit into strawberry jam GOOD LUCK..

  22. Mark

    January 25, 2010 at 8:36 am

    As taxpayers can we get a refund from the forest industry for the costs of developing and implementing the Australian Forestry Standard? Departments including AFFA and FT seem to have devoted resources in its development. The government may as well instruct the Green Building Council of Australia to withdraw its AFS certification, as well.

    Mr Llewellyn can use some quotes from my earlier article if he wishes to push the line, “I wanted to give them the assurances of government that our practises here are the best in the world.”


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