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The Examiner at it again

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Lets put the Examiner to the test!

The Ex is at it again. The Examiner editor appears to be fulfilling her threat not to publish me anymore. All because I dared to criticise the Examiner and Gunns.

Dear me, dear Editor.

Yesterday I submitted a comment in response to this article

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Twice In the morning & twice again in the afternoon (below) using my real name.

The result – No cigar!

My comments were a bit cheeky but nothing that the Ex Online hasn’t published before and isn’t prepared to publish in the future as you will see by the comments that followed by Kerry & Rodney.

Indeed I decided to put the Examiner to the test again to see if i was really being censored or whether the Examiner just innocently missed my comment.

I concocted and then submitted three consecutive comments under the bogus names Kerry & Rodney (about as equally or more offensive than my own comment) in support of Llewelyn, Gay & Gordon’s Japan Pulp Junket.

Included in the bogus comments were as many libellous, offensive, unacceptable, deceptive, flagrantly abusive & misleading as I could think of directed squarely at public anti-pulp mill figures environmentalists such as Bob Brown etc

And as usual the Examiner did not fail to deliver.

Has the Examiner editor instructed her online editors not to publish my comments?

It would appear so.

Even if this is not true it would certainly appear that the Examiner is applying their terms & conditions very, very selectively.

See for yourself

The Letters

I wonder if the Gay, Gordon & Llewelyn a, trois are sharing the same room. Considering the tax payer is footing the bill for Llewelyn one would hope so. Wouldnt you just love to be a fly on the wall listening to Gay Gordon and the parson sharing greenie hatin stories.

All the collective IQ of a pile of woodc hips in one room together.

Gordon, the former head of the disgraced Pulp Mill Task force would also presumably be on paid leave of some sort. Tasmanians can have no confidence in FT head Bob Gordon to make decisions on their behalf because of his involvement in a Lennon led propoganda campaign which showed itself not be at arms length from Gunns.

Llewelyn will have to face Lyons voters soon and Gordon and Gay will still have to deal with an disgruntled community.

Pilko

Submitted twice – at around 10.30a.m and then again at 2.30 pm. – Not Published

& the following toned down version:

I wonder if the Gay, Gordon & Llewelyn are sharing the same room. Considering the tax payer is footing the bill for Llewelyn one would hope so. Wouldnt you just love to be a fly on the wall listening to Gay Gordon and the Minister sharing greenie hatin stories.

Gordon, the former head of the disgraced Pulp Mill Task force would also presumably be on paid leave of some sort. Tasmanians can have no confidence in FT head Bob Gordon to make decisions on their behalf because of his involvement in a Lennon led propoganda campaign which showed itself not be at arms length from Gunns.

Llewelyn will have to face Lyons voters soon and Gordon and Gay will still have to deal with an disgruntled community.

Pilko

Submitted at 4.24pm – Not Published

this further toned down version:

I wonder if the Gay, Gordon & Llewelyn are sharing the same Hotel suite. Considering the tax payer is footing the bill for Llewelyn one would hope so. Wouldnt you just love to be a fly on the wall listening to Gay Gordon and the Minister sharing greenie hatin stories.

I wonder if Mr. Gordon although paying his own airfare is on paid leave of some sort?

Tasmanians can have no confidence in FT head Bob Gordon – the former head of the disgraced Pulp Mill Task force to make decisions on their behalf because of his involvement in a Lennon led propoganda campaign which showed itself not be at arms length from Gunns.

Llewelyn will have to face Lyons voters soon and Gordon and Gay will still have to deal with an disgruntled community.

Pilko

Submitted at 5.08pm – Not Published

Then the bogus letters

Minister Llewelyn. Mr Gordon and John Gay, are indeed three wise men.

Tasmania should be proud of these gentlemen, particularly Gunns.

If it were not for commy whingers like Bob Brown, Bob Mcmahon and Paul Oosting and other greeny groups we have the worlds cleanest & greenest mill operating now and there would be a jobs bonanza in Tasmania. I blame the latte sippers & wine wankers in the community and the corrupt environment movement.

I just hope the japs listen to good sense and decide to get behind John Gay and the mill. The sooner the election comes and we can get rid of the pro-gay, anti-jobs Greens the better. Minister Llewelyn.

Kerry

Submitted 3.12pm – Published

Nobody raises and eyebrow when Bob Brown and his flowery friends jet around the world sabotaging Tasmania,s sustainable forest industry. The Wilderness groups and The Greens have done this many time at the tax payers expense.

So why the hysterics when our democratically elected reps go overseas to promote a great Tasmanian company?

The chief scientist said the mill will not harm the environment so lets build it. Go Gunns!

Rodney

Submitted at 4.05pm – Published

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11 Comments

11 Comments

  1. Wino

    January 30, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Here’s a question for Pilko, or someone to ask Fiona Reynolds.

    What is the preferred contact for Examiner journalists with queries about the Tasmanian wine industry?

    I would have thought somebody like Stuart Nettlefold from Wine Tasmania might be a good source. Yet is seems 0419 378 784 (a Mr John Gay) is a better source.

    Worried about bogans and bikies? A quick call to Mr Gay would probably give the number of his struggling venture at Rosevears, where a couple of pitiful mainland tourists can confirm that although they haven’t been assaulted by shirtless, shouting drunks, the assault of the house pinot may in fact be worse.

    And fags and grog are to increase in price. No worries – the impact shouldn’t be too bad. A quick visit to tame supplier to Gunns, Jimmys Liquor (today’s Examiner), will ease any concerns.

    Any criticism of Tassie wine is easily deflected. Just give Andrew Pirie (Tamar Ridge CEO a call – again, today’s Examiner). Don’t bother calling an industry expert, or somebody who’s livelihood depends on their passion, and ability to make great wine.

    Onya Fiona. It must be great to have a one stop shop for all your journos.

    Another question though – in my copy of the Sunday Ex, the only article covering any sort of opposition to Tasmania’s third world forestry practices was entirely obscured by a half-page liftout.

    Please, somebody with capital, start a new NEWSPAPER and put this miserable rag out of business.

    Until then, I suppose I’ll have to look forward to more gripping reading like Tasmania’s ten most quirky letterboxes, whatthe sexy and clever Scott Maclean did last weekend, and perhaps another feature on the taxpayer-subsidised bastardisation of the old asbestos-ridden LGH.

  2. Truth

    January 26, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    Be very concerned now all those that are independently thinking…

    I see a certain DEPUTY Editor has become a President of a certain Golf Club. Directly from this club’s site…

    The major sponsor of the **** Golf Club is Tamar Ridge Estates, a subsidiary of Gunns Limited.
    The *** Golf Club is delighted with the long standing relationship with its major sponsor and encourages all members to actively support our major sponsor at all times.

    You can see where personal bias starts to take play…

    What a bloody joke

    Truth

  3. Jarvis Cocker

    January 25, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    DD, wrong again. There is no evidence editorial policy (in terms of publishing reader comment) has changed in recent years.

    Further, since accepting online comment, as my friend Pilko has so correctly pointed out, The Ex has moved to a pro-mill position so obvious that even the paper’s most ardent supporters would be pressed to defend.

    I’ll be conducting my own experiment in coming weeks, using something less controversial than the pulp mill. I’ll pick something inoffensive, but dear to the Examiner’s heart. One of those causes the paper supports, despite being contrary to both logic and public opinion.

    I think I’ll be able to prove that only letters Burgo, the Ponting sycophant and the Liberal stooge like will be published.

    Watch this space.

    Love, Jarvis.

  4. anne

    January 22, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Clearly I’m in excellent company then Pilko, despite always aiming (I think successfully) for the balanced and considered take on Gunns and their poxy pulp mill. Since the last three letters, and at least as many online blog submissions, have failed to pass muster with the Ex I’ve come to the conclusion I’m on their blacklist too. I’ll take a leaf out of your book and go the nom de plume route and see if that brings more success.

  5. john Hayward

    January 22, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    Pilko needs to accept that there is no law against insulting someone’s intelligence, even in an openly systematic way, as does the Xaminer. There are libel laws, but they don’t apply to respondent Tas Inc-ers in this state.

    John Hayward

  6. Jarvis Cocker

    January 22, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Pilko, you are clearly on the nose down at The Examiner.

    Julian Burgess, who has the grandiose title Online Editor, is the person who can make or break the online content. Burgo doesn’t like any form of controversy, and is battling it out with Rachel Williams for the John Caples award for pro-Gunns journalism.

    Try taking him out for dinner, buy him flowers, and whisper sweet nothings in his ear. That might work.

    And don’t be offended. The Ex doesn’t publish anything much I submit online, including a few comments questioning the validity of their rabidly conservative, morally questionable and factually flawed religion blog.

    Perhaps that’s where we’re wrong, Pilko. Tassie doesn’t have any ancient forests worth protecting. After all, according the The Examiner, the world was only created 3,000 years ago.

  7. Grant Jackson

    January 22, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    I just want to say the Examiner seem to be doing a lot fairer job than the Mercury about covering the Ethics & Sustainability Party. The Mercury appear to be on a real witch hunt possibly working hand in hand with the ABC Online news. Getting back to The Examiner’s coverage of the new party, it has been nothing but factual and to the point, no innuendo and no smear. So I take my hat off to them. Might be in your case Pilko, they seek to present balanced amounts of commentary from both sides of the issue. Not so reasonable if they are doing it that way but it might be one strategy they have in place to avoid the counter argument getting drowned out by a deluge of readers’ comments favouring one particular view, e.g. like what Lib and Lab do at federal election time, filling our letterboxes up with campaign material in the hope nothing will be noticed from any other alternative party or independent candidate. What do you think of that Pilko?

  8. maree

    January 22, 2010 at 11:42 am

    How can the Examiner defend this?
    One has to assume that bias towards Gunns and antagonism towards critics of the paper is deeply entrenched in the culture of this newspaper.
    Fiona Reynolds promised to clean up the paper.
    What happened?

  9. Concerned Resident

    January 22, 2010 at 11:26 am

    If the Examinator was the last means of news available, I would not read it, as they are so Gunns and FT biased. I have learned that anything that the Examiner prints regarding FT and Gunns, the truth is usually the opposite. The Lab/lib gov’t is run by Gunns and I hope the general public of Tasmania remember this on March 20th.

  10. Buck and Joan Emberg

    January 22, 2010 at 11:18 am

    What more proof do you need Pilko? You proved it beyond a shadow….and thanks to the TT for having the courage to publish the whole sad affair.

    And the election looms and the Lab/Lib Party deserves their own wilderness.

  11. Dave Groves

    January 22, 2010 at 9:41 am

    Oh Pilko, you are on fire.

    I’m crying with laughter at your letters.

    Why do you think this newspaper is know locally as the “Gunns Gazette” or the “Zaggie”?

    Once you have made the grade, you just know that your hard work will be expressed to the deleted items or secured on the blocked senders list.

    At least with alter ego’s Kerry and Rodney, you can offer solace to industry hard nuts, who are feeling the pain of an industry hell bent on self imposed implosion.

    You offer a path of blame on a four lane, silver plattered delight.

    Keep up your fine work Pilko.

    Perhaps you could have a regular column of works published to give respite to bruvvas McLean and Kroon?

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