
• John Hawkins:
18th January 2013.
Secretary
Mr Stuart Wright
Phone (03) 6212 2250
Fax: (03) 6231 1849
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Dear Mr Wright
After an enormous effort my submission in three parts to the Legislative Council Committee was completed and submitted yesterday.
Thank you for your phone call acknowledging receipt.
I have now had a short time to scan the Government’s submissions and attachments that were submitted to your Chamber in the last 48 hours.
I am totally and utterly appalled by such behaviour which from a government is unconscionable.
The demand for a “quickie” in decision making trashes “process” which enables vested interests to hide their agenda by using devious pollies to facilitate their cause over the Christmas-January holiday period.
To-day is the last day that the public has an opportunity to comment on the Proposed Tasmanian Forests Agreement Bill 2012 and the Tasmanian Forest Agreement.
In the very recently submitted material by the government there are 158 pages of Amendments.
Schedule A for example has 295 land parcel lots that have to be assessed very carefully. This cannot be done in a few hours, or even a few weeks. Other attachments add to the considerable number of pages of new material to be analysed and critiqued. My time is voluntary and not paid for, and those who help and advise me also have other professional occupations.
There is still vital missing information that would help the Legislative Council Committee.
For example in Schedule A, Column 6 has been left blank. Is this where the public would have learned what exact forest type belonged to which land lot parcel? The public have been given no insight into forest type in no less than 295 land parcels. There is an accepted process for this.
In the Regional Forest Agreement of 1997, there were 50 forest communities listed. The TASVEG project had identified far more communities subsequent to that Agreement (at least up to 77). One or other of these government recognised documents has to be used and added to Schedule A for each of the 295 land parcel lots. So that the public can see which land lot parcels contain which forested listed types? Given the other columns in Schedule A it then would be possible to discern exactly what future is projected for each. It is quite possible that larger lot sizes contain a mixture of forested listed types (i.e. one lot size is 26,000 + ha).
Schedule A has 8 columns with no title heading to any of the columns. Why not?
For example Column 5 almost always lists “Native forest harvesting”. Does this mean that this activity is prohibited or allowable? The difference between Yes and No is palpable.
Where is the Integrity Commissioner when you need him? His ability to investigate such matters has been constrained by your own House and its legislation, drawn up by those now sitting on this Committee
There is no information for the 52 forest coupes listed on Schedule B in the Amendments. Only the initiated will know where these are located, what their size is, what type of forest grows on them, when they are intended to be logged. This is not acceptable.
Not to have this information makes a mockery of the entire process.
The data is available from Forestry Tasmania’s data base they will not make it available to the public, further unconscionable behaviour by this rogue Government Agency who must be called to account.
The maps which are to be attached to the Bill should it proceed to legislation are digital maps. As one zooms to find out exactly which land parcel lot is being considered, definition becomes more and more fuzzy. This is not acceptable.
The public and your own Legislative Councillors need maps at a resolution that is quite clear, concise and readable.
What is the scale?
Forestry Tasmania would have this data at resolutions that are clear and not fuzzy. Not to have available clear legible maps and plans at a scale that is suitable for assessment continues this mockery of process.
Clear, legible plans and maps need to be placed by Forestry Tasmania publicly on the Legislative Council website. These maps are the heart of the matter.
The audacity with which the Government has waited until the very last moment to release this additional material is breathtaking, it is more than that. What it does is that it diminishes “process” and the orderly, considered, rigorous, progression of that process.
A process that contains integrity, transparency, and open-ness and full disclosure must be mandatory.
Another Forestry scam is about to be perpetrated on the Taxpayer as tremendous pressure is put on those tasked to make this decision by those interested in propping up a dying industry by any means possible.
I am writing to seek further time, but cannot put a date on when that should be. It should not be a date that is relatively quick; again that demeans process. The signatories to this Agreement and its subsequent Bill have been afforded nearly three years to deliver what is before us now. Surely the public are entitled to months, not days to appraise ALL the material that has been put into the public domain.
These are Tasmanian forests that are up for “grabs” and what happens to them concerns all Tasmanians, if not all persons nationally.
Note: My submission will be published on their website - http://www.parliament.tas.gov.au/ctee/Council/Forests.htm - and can then be downloaded protected by Parliamentry priveledge
• Peter Brenner:
Submission to the Legislative Council Select Committee on the Tasmanian Forests Agreement Bill 2012
My submission to the Legislative Council (LegCo) addresses the statesman/woman in each Councilor.
It seems to me that in the comprehensive and wildly contradictory claims, hopes and demands hurled at the LegCo and particularly the Select Committee (the committee), the big picture about the role of forestry is getting buried. That may be convenient for some, but the public good is not properly addressed.
Forestry operations in Tasmanian state forests (and to a varying degree in private forests) have been loss making, resource depleting, grief causing, ecosystem destroying, quality timber wasting, population enraging, polluting by misuse of chemicals, water mismanaging, fire hazard creating, ridiculous to qualified onlookers at increasing intensity for up to 40 years. Something - many things - must have gone fundamentally wrong for a significant length of time to have ended with such a devastating result today.
One would think that the acknowledgement of this state of affairs is (or should be) the starting point for any forest law revision.
Looking at the latest forest legislation exercise, now before the LegCo, it is clear, however, that such an insightful starting premise has not been adopted.
Nowhere in the environment of the proposed law is there an acknowledgement of failed philosophy, regulation or forestry practice. None of the major players in the industrial forestry environment have expressed a readiness to embrace real change or stepped back from their long held, but clearly disqualified belief systems to make room for real change. On the contrary!
Even at this stage when the indices of mismanagement are crushing, those responsible continue to push for the same, untenable forestry practices, which have led and continue to lead to the sorry state of an entire industry, which in other parts of the world - faced with the same markets, resource limitations and expectations of the population -i s prospering without causing ecological, economic and social havoc.
In other words, tinkering with forestry regulations without analyzing the fundamentals, the general direction that should be followed and the overall goal regarding the wellbeing of the whole Tasmanian population, is counter-productive.
It is clear from reading and listening to deliberations at the committee hearings that the majority of participants, with some notable exceptions, are prepared to simply put their claims for a slice of financial support by Governments without questioning the underlying principles.
I understand that MLCs are in the un-enviable position of having to deal with what the Lower House has put on their table. However, going beyond the call of duty, in this case, seems a political necessity.
It is time for a statesman-like standby the LegCo, demanding a full revision of the forestry legislation and accompanying regulations.
I have no suggestions as to how this can be achieved but I strongly suspect that mechanisms can be found or developed to put the current process on hold and pave the road for a full revision.
What then should a full revision address?
I am not in the position to draft even the beginning of legislation, but I can cite a number of principles that need to be addressed. My points are meant to act as a general guide to indicate the direction such legislation should take. They are neither final nor detailed enough to be taken as a template.
Those working on a revision of the Tasmanian forestry legislation need to recognize and:
• Understand the role of all forests in Tasmania and elsewhere as vital ecosystems of global importance.
• Understand that forests play a far greater role in human lives than just places for timber, fiber or energy production.
• Understand that any grouping of trees of identical age and identical species is not a forest but a crop with all its limitations, dangers of unstable ecosystems, adverse impact on drinking - and environmental water, landscape disfiguration, fire hazard etc.
• Understand that close-to-nature silviculture management is the modern professional call, to be embraced as the first principle and then further developed to suit local forest management needs.
• Understand that forestry regulators cannot also be a for-profit forestry operation – the regulator must be independent and only concerned with regulation for the good of the entire community as well as for forest health.
• Understand that the market is best left to commercial operators who will need to adhere to clear-cut, vigorous regulation and be treated equitably to offer a level playing field and a wise framework for all participants.
• Understand that large operators are likely to be much less efficient that smaller ones.
• Understand that communal forest ownership has proven to be beneficial to forests, timber production and the satisfaction of the population.
• Understand that the use of chemicals in forests should be avoided and serious research as to how to avoid it should be called in.
• Understand that in Tasmania ongoing public education regarding the role of forests and their management should be introduced. It is essential that such education be truthful, comprehensive and never resort to generating spin and secrecy to distort any aspect of forestry.
• Understand that badly managed forests and plantations can and should be subject to restoration management in order to give them more ecological stability, biodiversity and longevity. This may include returning them to agricultural land.
• Understand that some forests should indeed be protected from human interference, but it should be more a matter of quality than quantity. Current crude allocations should be re-examined via fine tuned, comprehensive protection criteria and verification on the ground.
• Understand that all production forests, including plantations, should be managed with utmost care and a genuine triple bottom line as a guideline at all times and all stages.
• Understand that the fertility of the forest ground needs precedence over residue exploitation by large industrial processes such as wood-fired powerplants. Promising emerging technologies such a pyrolysis for biochar should be followed closely and their use made mandatory, once research results are satisfactory.
I think you get the drift ….
There is of course a lot more to be addressed in a serious forestry law revision. But it is essential for a successful forestry policy that the starting point and the general spirit and direction are set in a different philosophical sphere from the one now in force.
By putting this submission to you I also request to present verbal evidence at a committee hearing in the hope of delivering a dose of much needed courage to the LegCo to turn around the forestry conundrum and make a decisive strategic step towards peace in the Tasmanian forest.
Looking forward to your invitation.
Best regards
Peter Brenner
Citizen and former Head of Information of the Swiss Timber Information Council (Lignum)
































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Nicely put gentlemen. The elephant in the room in all the negotiations on this shady deal is the need to reform the way forestry is done in this State.
I have no faith in the deal at all given that is is being supported by people who have been behind the disgraceful destruction of the integrity of our forests for decades. The industry needs to be moved to a high quality, ecologically sustainable model based on what the forests can really supply on a perpetual basis. The subsidy industry needs to die a natural death, no more force feeding of the industry sponges who skim the top off all the money coming to the state coffers.
Go, you good men!
JV
When amendments exceed one, revoke the legislative bill, for the draft is clearly non-consultative.
More importantly, sack the consultants.
# 1 says it all.
Thank you John, Peter and Peter Henning in a previous article.
We wait on a decision…...and wonder at it all….
Dr Alison Bleaney
It won’t be the last day, ‘cos it’s politically motivated. The Burke has proven that time and time again – with threats. It’ll all be dragged out until the next election … as it was always going to be - the country burns whilst Rome fiddles!
The additional documents provided by the current State Government on the eve of the commencement of the Select Committee on the Tasmanian Forest Agreement Bill has a number of items that some of us would not have realised were part of the signatories ‘deal’ in late November 2012.
The Select Committee also wondered whether these additions were with the Signatories approval.
‘The Tasmanian Forests Agreement Bill 2012 is intended to give legislative effect
to the intentions of the Signatories to the TFA and the Government’s key objective to enable the protection of Tasmania’s carbon reserves.’
Greater than 157,000 metres of ‘export peeler billets’ per year, in addition to the 160,000 cubic metres per year of peeler billets to be supplied to the two Ta Ann veneer mills.
‘Forestry Tasmania has advised the Signatories that, in order to meet this minimum requirement [i.e. 137,000 cubic metre of high quality sawlogs per year], 7 000 cubic metres of sawlogs will need to be sourced through additional cable logging for the next 15 years.’
In addition to the 137,000 cubic metres of high quality sawlogs per annum, and addition volume of greater than 42,000 cubic metres of ‘lower quality sawlog’ will harvested from public native forest annually.
‘The Signatories have agreed to publicly and proactively support the outcomes of
the TFA, including in markets for Tasmanian forest products.’
Reference: TFA-Submission 34 - Tasmanian Goverment W-O-G Submission dated 15 January 2013
We are dealing with cunning minds.
Trust is a term I can not find when it comes to the Hobart elite and the very people that are now so united to get the 2012 TFA deal, no matter how damaging the socio-economic impact may be. It is a package…
CFPO Graham Wilkinson as well as the Tasmanian Conservation Trust made it very clear that the legal requirement of “continued improvement” does outlaw the aim to simply “maintain” the 2000 Forest Pracices Code for the future, and that the code is already well overdue for review and for updating to best practice.
One thing I am sure of is that anyone suggesting that FSC International would simply go along with damaging trade off deals is in serious denial of reality.
The monoculture plantation issues and the carbon science issues around the world are front and centre of attention within credible certification debates.
Like Wally Menne a member of the South African Timberwatch Coalition the sticker of the Global Forest Coalition tell us: “PLANTATIONS ARE NOT Forests”:
They have been often been ignored but will not go away.
Just google and you will find the level of debate 2001, 2004, 2008, 2012 over and over again:
http://globalforestcoalition.org
http://www.wrm.org.uy/countries/Africa/trouble9.html
Plantations are not forests!!! By: Wally Menne. April 2001. The sad figures of employment generated by plantation companies. One of the most commonly used ...
The pressure for real change is on and FSC International in Bonn Germany is well aware of that.
Have a good weekend.
The entire hocus pocus that had brought together Tasmania’s carefully selected power-gifted conservationists and the logging despots together to parley and indulge in this sort of argy-bargy self-serving round table haggling event has by now become self evident, it is nothing more than a piece of ruined parchment.
Then to infuse some further mystique into this State government inspired shonkery was the arrival of the comprehensively investigated and completed report prepared by Professor John West and his team, thus we now see revealed, (despite the foreboding truths contained in the West report,) that this whole set of our State government’s sly sneaky purports and purposes has become a wasted ruined victim resulting from the immense amount of its crudely inflicted molestations.
There is no great mystery who the main molesting perpetrators are, certainly high among this lot will be the entire hierarchy of Forestry Tasmania, (Board of Directors and Management infidels,) add this State’s highly incompetent forestry minister, Bryan (the giggler) Green, along with the mind poisoning spokes-person on loan from the bureau of FIA, then peppered throughout by those that may still and or formerly were, waxing fat through the vast destruction and carnage of Tasmania’s once abundant Old Growth Forests.
I find it extraordinary in the fact that in our past and up until today’s highly corrupted tax-payer money burning logging practices, this has ever been the design of this State government’s logging entity, to which it has been given free rein to believe that they alone own and control all Tasmania’s Crown Land Forests, when in fact they do not.
Furthermore they and their loyalist band of huckstering truth-dodgering gringos are little more than a gang of over-promoted hugely remunerated dodgers and spielers, all wholly intent upon their task of securing the State government assent to engage in the luxuriant feathering of their very own nests, yet are paid, not for their work ethics, nor the rate of profitable production outcomes, but singularly through and by the strangling auspices of Tasmania’s government upon the already over-burdened harsh suffering tax-payers.
The names that do quickly leap to mind though not in any order, are the names of Lennon, Rolley, Amos, Drielsma, Gay, Edwards, Gordon, Hampton, Kloeden, Gray, there is room for many more of this logging industry related number of clingers that can be added to this list of Tasmania’s infamous.
Tasmania is desperate for an entirely new integrity structured agency to tend its forests and ‘much-reduced’ logging operations, until this comes about the festering widely gaping wound inflicted upon our Tasmania in the clear-fell logging in each and all and every part of our State, this wound will continue its purulent festering to ultimately become that most dreaded tissue-rotting rancorous and fetid dead-flesh disease, more simply known as gangrene.
I was gobsmacked as I read the following - “To-day is the last day that the public has an opportunity to comment on the Proposed Tasmanian Forests Agreement Bill 2012 and the Tasmanian Forest Agreement.
In the very recently submitted material by the government there are 158 pages of Amendments.
Schedule A for example has 295 land parcel lots that have to be assessed very carefully. “..etc.
Talk about deja vue!! Remember when we had an opportunity to comment on Gunns proposed Pulp Mill assessment through the RPDC, and then after we had all submitted our well researched problems with the unresearched proposal, they pulled the plug on the last day of submissions with a new amended proposal thousands of pages long!!!
Forestry and the Government are taking a leaf out of an old book here. But they didn’t read it through to the end where Gunns went down the gurgler anyway, which is where the current forestry regime is headed also. I only hope they don’t take as long as Gunns did to get there.
Thank you John and Peter for keeping us in the twisted loop.
It’s time some gifted lawyer took all of this nonsense to the Supreme Court to test the legality of the government’s behaviour.
This thing will drag on & on. Either the TFA signatories make it know to MLC’s that they are willing to bend to what MLC’s want or the bill will be voted down.
There are 5 definite no votes. Harris, Hall, Dean, Goodwin & Rat-Wagner. I cant see Taylor or Wilkinson passing the bill.
Only needs two more votes to send it to President & uber greenie hater Sue Smith. She will vote the bill down. MLC’s will rationalise in their minds that its only a year to a likely new Tasmanian govt anyway.
If you hadn’t guessed at the start that the torturous TFA was a sham, Lara spelled it out in giant letters when she declared in parliament over a year ago that it was all about securing the crucial PSC “social license” through the involvement of three hand-picked, grant -dependent ENGOs.
That would have been the immediate end of it in any place that wasn’t severely deprived ethically.
The sham included, however, four Tas Inc temps in the three ENGOs and Burke, all of whom had vestigial obligations to put on a token pretence of integrity.
The crypto-Libs in the LC committee, chaired by Ta Ann favourite son Paul Harris, seem to feel that more could be squeezed out of the remaining State Forest by returning to business as usual, without pocketing the hundreds of millions in Federal bribes to spare some of it.
The very fact that FT is still in existence, much less announcing that it would be concentrating on a practice so destructive that Canada has banned it altogether, clear-fall cable logging, is but more evidence that nothing has changed.
John Hayward
#12 Those of us who started asking questions about what was going on back in 2009 were actually pilloried for just asking the questions by the Greens and their supporters.
We were labelled as extremists and publicly attacked and privately vilified by people like Whish-Wilson and others.
Once the roundtable got under way in May 2010 any criticism of the role the ENGOs were playing behind closed doors was remorselessly blasted by their supporters and Green party apparatchiks.
In September, for example when Brenda Rosser took Whish-Wilson to task for supporting a pulp mill in “her backyard”, in north-west Tas, Whish-Wilson’s response was quote: “Brenda, Yes not a word of sympathy… I’m proud to have worked on the Greens Forestry Transition Report, OCG Initiatives etc because I believe we need solutions-and yes, that will involve compromise -maybe even a Pulp Mill somewhere… And by the way, if being “green” or a “conservationist” means being like you, I’m happy to take on a new label.”
OCG stands for Our Common Ground, a front organisation for the ENGOs which were promoting monocultural Plantation Isle with expensive television advertising. This was of course well before Gunns imploded and when Gunns was considered still in the hunt to get joint venture funding for the Tamar Valley pulp mill.
Since then Whish-Wilson has replaced Bob Brown in the senate, and has consistently maintained support for the ENGOs within the negotiations. There is nothing controversial about any of this. It is quite straight forward. Whish-Wilson has always worn his willingness to “compromise” as a virtue in itself, which puts him in good company with the ENGOs’ trade-offs in the TFA agreement.
The trade-offs are straight forward as well. They allow business as usual outside the protected areas, including clear-felling in the catchments, promotion of Ta Ann in the international marketplace and no requirement for a triple bottom-line accreditation system such as FSC.
So, the situation is actually now worse than John Hayward says.
It was precisely this situation which prompted me to support Frank Strie in writing to the Legislative Council towards the end of last year arguing that there must be a better way than a solution based on sheer political grounds to suit vested interests while ignoring the public interest.
It was precisely this situation which prompted me to write a submission to the Legislative Council a week ago, in the hope – a hope without particular optimism – that a better way was possible. It is certainly not possible to support the current operating political paradigm whereby politicians seek approval for “compromise” without telling us that compromise gives them open slather to do anything they like from day to day and from week to week.
How is it possible, for example, that a committee of the cabinet can dump 158 amendments on the Legislative Council without those amendments requiring passage through the Legislative Assembly first?
To prove their so called independance the Legislative Council should now call the Lower House to account by demanding a Royal Commission into the Corruption of due process by the Tasmanian Forestry Industry.
Gunns payment on day one would be a good start.
Over the years and up until this point in time the most uncaring habitat destroying native wildlife slaughtering Gorgon we have in this State is sponsored by our very own State government.
We see them ever constant happily providing the formidably expensive outpourings of taxpayer money in order to provide the fuel that infuses this slaughter agency of Forestry Tasmania.
What and where are the returns that should be flowing back to this State government, thereby to provide the people with better resourced health services, improved standards of education, our essential community safety, (via increased police numbers and appropriate resources to aid them to better provide community safety) yet nothing ever seems to come back into our State revenues that could be of any real true and visible benefit to Tasmanians.
How is it we continually see this blatant madness being supported by our States political imcumbents?
The theme of ‘bugger the people’ is all that is seen, we view our politicos meddling about with this ridiculously contrived Peace Deal which at the end of the day is just another nonsense that will see each of these same 2 overlording anti-the-people-agencies, (this State government and Forestry Tasmania) still hard at it fighting and arguing to provide this State with its endless loss/loss annual disaster results.
This State does not need more of these contrived forest destroying paper pledging outcomes and usually ignored documented agreements, especially as they are never really enforced or even strictly held to their abiding principles.
This State Government is forever keenly supporting a deep snake-pit containing quite a number of poisonous reptilian/humanoid species.
Yet the band plays on through among and amidst this infamy that continues to increase its infestation throughout the suffering State of Tasmania.
Some time ago I provided a description of the phenonomen know as “a cluster fuck”.
Briefly it is a disaster that keeps on getting worse with every attempt to fix it.
I guess this farce qualifies.
The only course of action for responsible adults when faced with “a cluster fuck” is to stand well back, take careful note of those responsible for its causation for future reference, and wait for gravity to put all the heavy bits on the ground and the wind to blow the dust away. Then, and only then, will it be worth even contemplating what can, should, or must be done to enable any possible resurection to take place. Intervening before that point is to risk getting hit severely by rapidly decending objects.
To paraphrase Dave Groves, it’s one hell of a show, find a comfortable seat well out of harms way, grab a cold beer and settle in and watch the fireworks.
I must admit, although nowhere near as intellectual comment as everyone else has made, I am more than somewhat amused by the title “Select Committee”!
At the Select Committee hearing this morning, Vica Bailey of TWS, made the astonishing admission that of the 504,012 hectares of public land proposed for protection under the Bill approximately 174,000 ha is already protected in informal reserves and a further 40,000 ha protected under other land tenures such as those owned by the Commonwealth which already preclude logging.
He also admitted that the remaining balance of 280,000 ha (on his calculations) also includes significant areas which would never be logged due to steepness, inaccessibility etc.
Furthermore, of the 504,012 ha of public land proposed for protection, 300,000 ha is earmarked for Regional Reserves which preclude logging but allow mining.
Potentially, 123,000 ha will be protected from logging and mining if it receives World Heritage Listing but seemingly the area proposed by the State and Federal Government falls short of this commitment within the Agreement.
And in a final act of duplicity, Vica Bailey revealed that 2 representatives from TWS will be travelling to Japan next week in promotion of their new found support for Ta Ann Tasmania.
The Legislative Council itself has abjectly failed to recognise the blatant conflict of interest held by the Chair of the Committee, Paul Harriss, who is on the public record as having accepted financial gifts from Ta Ann, a company which is set to receive millions of dollars of taxpayer funded “compensation” should the Bill be passed.
http://tasmaniantimes.com/index.php?/weblog/article/paul-harriss/
Even worse is the report in the Examiner that he “has effectively already voted against the deal - he cast a vote as a member of the Huon branch of the Timber Communities Australia”.
http://www.examiner.com.au/story/1173265/forest-deal-support-unclear-as-positions-wax-and-wane/
TCA is a signatory to the Agreement and a member of the Special Council to be established under Part 4 of the Act.
The fact that the Tasmanian Integrity Commission has no interest or power to intervene in this matter says it all.
Ta Ann in its submission to the Legislative Council Comittee has as Annexure no 2 a series of 17 letters supporting the company and its business in Tasmania.
These letters have a paragraph in common:
“Ta Ann is committing to an ongoing future in Tasmania operating its Smithton and Huon Mills to produce certified veneer from forests allocated for production under the Tasmanian Forest Agreement.”
Are Ta Ann’s supporters incapable of writing their own glowing tributes to this centre of excellence in Tasmania?
Why does Ta Ann have to write their letters for them.
They do supply three original letters not originating from Ta Ann two of which are political diatribes against the Greens.
Those instigated by Ta Ann and attached to their submission are listed below and may be read on the website given above:
Bobcat Tasmania.
Les Walkden Enterprises
Evans Coaches
Rocky Cape Christian Community
Paul Swifte
Tas Land and Forest
Monson Shipping Pty Ltd
Findlater and Sons
Bennetts Fuel Stop Huonville
Fluid Line Pty Ltd
Tasmanian Bearing and Chain
Highgate Distribution
Evans tyres and Sevicing
Recruitflex
All Wheel Services
Kays Sevice Station
SFM Forest Products.”
Mr Rolley I suggest you must do better.